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Feb 13, 2011 09:48 |  #1831

I'm thinking a lot of these "focus issues" are over hyped...


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Feb 13, 2011 10:18 |  #1832

Of course we can start to sound dogmatic about the superiority of "our" lens, but I thought that slow focusing was a key weakness of the 85L? The sig is very fast and sure, not as much as my 70-200, but is very good.


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Feb 13, 2011 12:19 |  #1833

Doesn't really matter, because it's not OEM, it will take the back seat....But...Whatever right? If you have a good copy of this lens and you've used the 85L's extensively then you know the deal. It's like the Sigmalux/50L debate but with even less difference. I own a copy of a Sigma 70-200 (1st version HSM) that's just superior to the Canon 2.8 non IS....Rings are smoother, images sharper....Really love it, my buddies always dogging it though, because he spent $2200 on the version II and he has to dog mine in order to feel good about his purchase....
His mkII is in fact better than my old 7-2, but I f*ck with him all the time and exclaim how mine is better, just to mess with his head.....and it works..


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Feb 13, 2011 12:26 |  #1834

thatkatmat wrote in post #11834818 (external link)
Doesn't really matter, because it's not OEM, it will take the back seat....But...Whatever right? If you have a good copy of this lens and you've used the 85L's extensively then you know the deal. It's like the Sigmalux/50L debate but with even less difference. I own a copy of a Sigma 70-200 (1st version HSM) that's just superior to the Canon 2.8 non IS....Rings are smoother, images sharper....Really love it, my buddies always dogging it though, because he spent $2200 on the version II and he has to dog mine in order to feel good about his purchase....
His mkII is in fact better than my old 7-2, but I f*ck with him all the time and exclaim how mine is better, just to mess with his head.....and it works..

hahahha you're mean.


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Feb 13, 2011 12:41 |  #1835

Mookalafalas wrote in post #11834135 (external link)
Of course we can start to sound dogmatic about the superiority of "our" lens, but I thought that slow focusing was a key weakness of the 85L? The sig is very fast and sure, not as much as my 70-200, but is very good.

Your right, from what I have heard the Sigma does focus faster, but for me it is the accuracy that matters. Anyways, not to start a Sigma vs Canon debate because I'm probably going to end up with this lens at some point, but I do see the reason to get the L primes over the Sigma primes.


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Feb 13, 2011 12:46 |  #1836

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+1 Really nice shot Jay. I'm super busy at work the first quarter of the year and things haven't changed. I hope to go out and shoot some more with this tomorrow. There's only so much useless crap around the apartment and office I can shoot haha

thanks for the comment man. I haven't had time to be on here as much as I used too.... but you have been putting out some pretty nice work with this lens in this thread as well. The last set is really nice above... the shot of the dog and just the road at the end there are very well composed and shot.


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Feb 13, 2011 13:12 |  #1837

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Your right, from what I have heard the Sigma does focus faster, but for me it is the accuracy that matters. Anyways, not to start a Sigma vs Canon debate because I'm probably going to end up with this lens at some point, but I do see the reason to get the L primes over the Sigma primes.

I tend to agree with you....But...I wouldn't put this lens in the same category, this lens doesn't have many users questioning the AF, many pro's are now using this lens...The 30mm and the 50mm AF is much more suspect....But you're mostly right and I see your point and have been one to buy the best (usually OEM and most expensive) until recently....

There are some lenses that will be fine for pro work that are not OEM, this is one of them...


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Feb 13, 2011 14:04 |  #1838

thatkatmat wrote in post #11835100 (external link)
There are some lenses that will be fine for pro work that are not OEM, this is one of them...

^^^ + 1000. agree with that statement on all counts.

This is as pro a lens gets... anyone who thinks otherwise is probably trying to find a reason to justify the price they paid for their 85LII, LOL.

My 35L barely see's the day of light since I got this lens. It only comes out when I really need to use that focal length.

If there was such a thing as love at first sight with camera gear... this lens would be the one for me. :D


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Feb 13, 2011 15:11 |  #1839

I tried it out a few weeks back at a local shop and OMG! What a sexy lens...if there is such a thing




  
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Feb 13, 2011 16:53 |  #1840

Went out to test it against the 135L. I now know it's limits haha. Anything past around 40 feet just focuses to infinity. For the shots within 25 feet, it's mostly spot on but anything farther and it misses. It's alright though as the 135L proved that it focuses at anything from MFD to umm yea I didn't miss a shot haha. The colors on the 135L straight out of the camera are a bit more saturated. I'll post some shots here soon. Just editing them now.


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Feb 13, 2011 20:21 |  #1841

Ok so I just got done editing and it was a little hard to tell the difference between the shots with the 135L and the ones with the Kegma. I purposefully mixed the shots up to see if I can tell. The biggest difference I can obviously see is the focus. Everyone is aware of it and my experience is no different. I'm going to love this for portraits but will always be choosing the 135L over the Kegma if I have a choice (for action/sport shots). Here's some good samples and then some samples of shots where the focus missed on objects farther away that the 135L would've easily hit.

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Feb 13, 2011 20:25 |  #1842

Now the shots that missed AF which the 135L hit with ease.

Focus on the skater

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Focus on the biker
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Focus on the biker in the air
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Feb 13, 2011 20:36 |  #1843

Interesting. At what aperture? Were the misses just wide open or at all apertures?


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Feb 13, 2011 20:41 |  #1844

I shot from 1.4 to 2.5 but most of those were at f/2 IIRC because I was trying to compare it to the 135L.


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Feb 14, 2011 00:25 |  #1845

More shots, why not? :)

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