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Feb 20, 2011 10:40 |  #2581

My pet rave is getting sales baloney from any source based on the ignorance of the sales person and lack of training. One can get more knowledge and training on this forum in a day or two than is often available at the point of sale. I owe the contributing members on this forum so much coffee I shall soon have to buy steaks instead of coffee.

For instance I am or have been in contact with two different well known photography seminar producers. Both knew exactly what equipment I had. Neither came up front and straight at the problem by telling me I should upgrade bodies first, get some practice in and then consider professional association if I felt the need. Within the same time period slightly more or less I was given correct factual opinion here with no intent other than to have me understand my situation. In my case this forums straw vote opinion appears to be a bloody fact. LOL

It now appears that I am somewhere between $500.00 and $1500.00 to up grade my body. As you can see or surmise correctly the question from the git go was.....why does this dude not have a body of quality equal to his lens set up. No doubt that would have bought a degree of loyalty rather than a state of doubt in my mind.

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Feb 20, 2011 12:16 |  #2582

Scout_Pete wrote in post #11876752 (external link)
70-200 f/2.8 mkII on 1DmkIV. 1/50 @ f/4 ISO 800.

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Damn thats nice. Especially for 1/50 sec.


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Feb 20, 2011 12:31 as a reply to  @ Staszek's post |  #2583

I love the 70-200 IS II with Canon 2X II this was taken at 400mm f/7.1

Almost 100% crop

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Feb 20, 2011 12:37 |  #2584

I rarely like cats but this is an exception. I'm not sure I would like this shot if I were in the wild trying to capture it....with a camera. LOL


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Feb 20, 2011 12:49 |  #2585

That's outstanding, snoop.


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Feb 20, 2011 12:55 |  #2586

it seems like all the stores are adjusting their prices in order to make up for the rebates...
Tony, the prices on the 7D did go up purposely so that they pocket the rebate money, kind of shady..oh well
Snoop, great shot


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Feb 20, 2011 13:11 |  #2587

The stores have to adjust their prices. Manufacturer rebates only apply to MSRP pricing and not other discounts. By adjusting the price to 2499 (Canons recommended price) and a 200 dollar instant rebate, the 2299 final price is 75 bucks LESS than the 2374 regular price.


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Feb 20, 2011 14:29 as a reply to  @ shaun raney's post |  #2588

Some close-up work today with the 2x III.

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Feb 20, 2011 16:47 |  #2589

shaun raney wrote in post #11879409 (external link)
The stores have to adjust their prices. Manufacturer rebates only apply to MSRP pricing and not other discounts. By adjusting the price to 2499 (Canons recommended price) and a 200 dollar instant rebate, the 2299 final price is 75 bucks LESS than the 2374 regular price.

Shaun, then doesnt that mean if the store is getting the $200.00 rebate versus the consumer then the store is making an extra $125.00 profit more then what they made prior to the rebate yesterday. You realize Amazon, B&H, & other vendors have hundreds of these rebated products on their shelfs in the warehouse they purchased from Canon months ago.

Correct me if im wrong?

IMO the rebates this go round essentially amount to squat for the consumer.

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Feb 20, 2011 16:53 |  #2590

Yes it does. But on the flip side, if the product is sitting on the shelves and the price goes down...the retailer eats the difference, so for all intents and purposes, it evens out. In the case of the 70-200II it amounts to 75 dollars savings (2374 vs 2299) for the consumer. the 2299 price might (or might not be) below the cost of the lens from Canon, and the retailer would rely on reimbursement from the manufacturer to even out the difference. I'm not 100% sure how it works for canon or in the photo industry, but when I worked in home electronics with rebates, you had to sell the TV for MSRP or the rebate was not valid. Any discount below MSRP would be "another offer".


Edit: And the 200 dollar customer facing rebate might not be a 200 dollar rebate to the retailer.


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Feb 20, 2011 19:58 as a reply to  @ shaun raney's post |  #2591

Here's one from Saturday...Goalie saving a corner kick goal.

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Feb 20, 2011 20:47 |  #2592

some kids soccer after a break

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Feb 21, 2011 04:24 |  #2593

I hope you already purchased the lens for $2,174 because the price now is $2,299. They are taking the $200 off of the MSRP. See the games they play.

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Ladies and gentleman, the rumors are true! I checked beach camera and the the price listed for the lens is 2174 which is 200 less than the regular price....I guess I will be returning mine and will buy again in order to take advantage of the deal.


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Feb 21, 2011 08:24 |  #2594

There's an explanation of the non-discount by someone from adorama on Canon Rumors http://www.canonrumors​.com …dex.php/topic,5​79.90.html (external link). Basically, prices are going UP but the rebate is easing the transition to the higher prices.




  
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Feb 21, 2011 09:24 |  #2595

One of my weekend "in the gym" shots with XTi body. Crop about 50%


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