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35L + 135L on FF, Opinions?

 
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Feb 22, 2011 19:05 |  #16

35L + 70-200 f2.8 IS II :p


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Feb 22, 2011 20:13 |  #17

m.shalaby wrote in post #11894929 (external link)
35 & 85
or
50 & 135

Yeah this is a good set depending on preference. I am eventually going to rid of my 50L and just keep my 24L/35L/85L(my own trinity).

OP: I think the gap with the 35L and 135L is too big.... but to each their own...


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Feb 22, 2011 20:18 |  #18

Or change out the Sigma for a Canon 85 1.8 and get the 135L (see my sig)




  
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Feb 22, 2011 22:53 |  #19

35L, 85/1.4 and 135/2.

85 and 135 are the yin and yang of traditional portrait focal lengths.... Wouldn't want to be without both of them on FF. (Substitute 50mm and 85mm on crop.)

35mm is way different, more of an "environmental portrait" lens, used to show the person or people in their surroundings... Beware using any wide angle up close, it will cause proportional distortions (big noses and little ears).

I was considering the 35L and 100L 2.8 macro combo, but I don't think f2.8 is wide enough for me

Well, there's always the 100/2 (non-macro).


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Feb 22, 2011 22:57 |  #20

s2kennyc wrote in post #11894171 (external link)
If those are going to be your only lenses, you're going to miss a lot of shots. The gap between 35-135 is huge.

+1. I have an 85mm wedged in between and it's my most used lens. The suggestions of 35 and 85 or 50 and 135 are worth considering.


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Feb 22, 2011 23:16 |  #21

50L + 135L is my pick


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Feb 22, 2011 23:35 |  #22

35L top portrait uses in order:
indoor environmental
indoor
outdoor environmental

Σ85 top portrait uses in order:
outdoor
outdoor environmental
indoor

135L top uses in order:
outdoor

You can't lose going with all three, but if I was going to buy them right now and I could only get one at a time with a years wait to save up between I would get them in this order:

85, 35, 135.

The 85 is the most versatile, I would have to have that to start with.

I say just save up for the 135.


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Feb 23, 2011 00:07 |  #23

35+135 is my go-to light prime kit. When more light is needed I replace 135 with 85. Very versatile. No need for other FL, zoom foot do it !

With this combo, no doubt about sharpness, IQ... And now considering to sell zooms...


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Feb 23, 2011 00:30 as a reply to  @ cherrymoon's post |  #24

I own 24L+85L+135L ..... and sold all my zooms ...
After a few years, my feeling is that my 135L is almost useless in my case ...(can't be used indoor so easily because it's a bit too long, and a bit too slow for dark situations)
When I had to choose, I was thinking that 35L and 85L can basically give same portrait perspective, just background will be significantly different. So, I chose 24L, because I could get some real complementary perspective from a standard and rather flat view (35 to 135mm).

Actually, I'd like to complete my combo with a 200L2.0 ... 85L and 200L will give almost same results, but I will get the necessary reach in many situations (dog show, quad bike races, rally). My 24L will always give me different pictures with smooth bokeh or ultra sharp pictures between F4 and F10 (landscape, tight portraits, ...)

I am waiting for a crop body with a good sensor (like Nikon D7000 or Pentax K5), so I will give another chance to my 135L to become a handsome 200L2.0 equivalent. If so, my travel combo will be
24L+85L+135L mixed on 5DMKII+a future 8D or 70D ? ... actually my 50D is a bit weak compared to the 5DMKII.


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Feb 23, 2011 00:34 |  #25

newworld666, can you explain how the 35L and 85L give basically the same perspective in portraits? I can't figure out how that works and I am always eager to learn something new.


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Feb 23, 2011 00:34 |  #26

Can't fathom not having 85mm, it would be like trying to walk with one foot missing. I use 35 and 85 for about 85% of my wedding photos.


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Feb 23, 2011 01:39 |  #27

arentol wrote in post #11896770 (external link)
newworld666, can you explain how the 35L and 85L give basically the same perspective in portraits? I can't figure out how that works and I am always eager to learn something new.


There is a good example in airfrogusmc hospital series :

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https://photography-on-the.net …p=11872981&post​count=8495

https://photography-on-the.net …p=11865219&post​count=8484

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It's almost interesting to see such homogeneous pictures with 3 different lenses 200L2.0, 85L1.2II, 35L1.4 ...

Basically, he has probably a good control of the angle of the lens not get any fleeting perspective with 35L (with 200L and 85L it's rarely an issue) ...
For such job, I love such homogeneous results.

My purpose, concerning 24L, was that it would offer a wider range for creativity with a larger range of fleeting perspectives... but 35L is probably a perfect complementary lens of 85L and 200L for a robust professional job.


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Feb 23, 2011 07:05 as a reply to  @ newworld666's post |  #28

OP, i know from going back and forth in PM's with you, none of this is what you want to hear, lol.

But listen to the choir preach! Trust us! Don't go 135 over the 85. Get an 85 first.

I'm not sure how your Sigma 85 issue is playing out, but if it doesn't work out, get the 85L, or if your just can't afford wait and save, or, get the 85 1.8.

The 135L has great optics but that wont mean much after you get over the amazing image quality and really put the 135mm to day to day use. The 85 FL is much more versitile for the type of work your describing.




  
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Feb 23, 2011 09:26 |  #29

LOL .....
I understand his disappointment :lol: ....

But, he could understand that basically 85mm is like a standard :confused: .... sigma, canon or anything else ...
135 is more or less better on a crop than on a full frame (even if I was happy with my 135L while waiting to get enough money to buy the 85L).

.... the digression on the 24mm or 35mm was out of he topic of course :oops: I am sorry about that :confused: ..


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Feb 23, 2011 09:35 |  #30

This is the exact combo I have and I've been contemplating a change (or addition!). Of course it all boils down to what you shoot, but I really feel the gap between 35 and 135 limits me at times.




  
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