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Mar 01, 2011 10:31 |  #1

What would be a good second lens to use on a second body(40d) for shooting volleyball? I used the 70-200 f2.8 on my 7d, and used a 50 f1.8 on my 40d. I didn't like the results I was getting with the 50mm (slow AF, soft images etc). It just wasn't working in a action setting for me.

There is a tournament I'll be shooting in 2 weeks and was getting to rent a lens. I was thinking of going with the 50 f1.4. The length on the 50 was fine, it captured the spots that were too close for the 70-200. I think anything shorter would be too wide. The refs had us standing behind them at midcourt on either side of the net.

I was wondering if anyone else had any other lens suggestions?




  
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Mar 01, 2011 12:19 |  #2

85 f/1.8 or 135 f/2L


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Mar 02, 2011 01:11 |  #3

Just rented the 85 1.8 this weekend for volleyball. Was very satisfied with the results, at times it had too much reach if you are on the sidelines and not in a bleacher seating venue though. If you have the space, that is a great lens. For this place I wish I had something shorter. Shot mostly at 2.2.

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Mar 02, 2011 05:19 as a reply to  @ PixelPusher's post |  #4

Do you have bleachers or a balcony on the ends of the court? If so, the 300mm f/2.8 is a terrific volleyball lens. If there is a high vantage point, then you can sometimes shoot over the top of the tape on the net to get an unobstructed view of the players' faces. It obviously depends on the venue.

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Even lower angles that make you shoot through the net can give good face shots although the focus is a bit trickier.

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Mar 02, 2011 08:26 as a reply to  @ Zivnuska's post |  #5

There will not be any overhead vantage point here. Single row of seats on the side. Last week, there spots were the 70 end of the 70-200 was too short. On a crop body, I think the 85 would be too long.




  
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Mar 02, 2011 09:59 |  #6

It is tough with a single row seating on the side when you are so close to the action with tall players. The one I posted earlier was from the side with the 85. The player was at the middle court for this I think. If the light is good you may be able to use something wider, maybe the EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM? I have heard some are using the 50 1.4, but that it doesn't focus as fast.


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Mar 02, 2011 10:25 |  #7

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There will not be any overhead vantage point here. Single row of seats on the side. Last week, there spots were the 70 end of the 70-200 was too short. On a crop body, I think the 85 would be too long.

Do you have a gallery of the shots you took? I'd like to get a better idea as to how close you are and what kind of shots you are ending up with.

I've shot with the 85 on a 40D where I was only a foot or two from the sidelines and I never felt it was too long.


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Mar 02, 2011 10:49 |  #8

Might be hard to fit an outstretched body with the 85 from the sideline.


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Mar 02, 2011 11:10 as a reply to  @ PixelPusher's post |  #9

We use a 24-70/2.8 as a second to our 70-200/2.8. Works very well from a low perspective.




  
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Mar 02, 2011 23:38 |  #10

Agree with FeXL on the 24-70/2.8


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Mar 02, 2011 23:52 |  #11

I would personally go with something wider than the 50 if my main lens was the 70-200. I would pick something like the 35 f/1.4 on crop. If f/2.8 is fast enough for you, I will also suggest the 24-70.

I shot NCAA D1 volleyball with the 135L as my main and 50 f/1.4 as my second lens. My 50 spent a lot of time in the bag. I found it a little tight on crop for closer players or too loose for loose shots. I've never found the 50 f/1.4's AF to focus nearly as fast or accurate as any L lens I've used for sports.

With that said, I'm stoked that my home gym installed new lights which yielded 2+ stops of light and I get to use my zooms. I no longer have to shoot at f/2 and ISO 6400.


These were all shot with the 135L. You can click any of them to go to my NCAA volleyball set on Flickr. I don't think there's many 50mm shots though.


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Mar 03, 2011 09:59 as a reply to  @ Staszek's post |  #12

The 24-70 is something else I was considering too.

These are lousy shots here, but just wanted to show my positioning.

First two were shot at 70mm on the 70-200, third shot was using the 50mm.

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Mar 03, 2011 11:45 |  #13

I don't think it's necessarily a matter of needing to be wider, it's a matter of being in the right position to capture the player/position you are choosing to focus on.

This thread is a good read to learn more about what I'm referring to:
https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=767866


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Mar 03, 2011 12:20 |  #14

13inches wrote in post #11948775 (external link)
I don't think it's necessarily a matter of needing to be wider, it's a matter of being in the right position to capture the player/position you are choosing to focus on.

This thread is a good read to learn more about what I'm referring to:
https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=767866

Good info, however in this case, refs only allowed me to shoot from A and B. They wouldn't let anyone near the baseline. C was even real iffy because of spectators. I'm shooting a tournament next week and not how much room I will have. It's a large tournament, supposed to be some 100+ courts set up. Depending on the refs I may get stuck in the AB position again. If that's the case, the 70mm can't get the 3 or 9 positions (or 1 and 7 depending on which side of the court I am on).




  
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Mar 03, 2011 12:47 |  #15

To be honest, I like shooting right behind the ref. Your problem is that you sitting on one side of the net and trying to shoot the same side's front line. What you want to do is go on the opposite side and shoot through or under the net. To shoot the back line, stay on their side of the net. Does that make any sense?


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