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iPad 2 Alternative? Dell Duo

 
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Mar 12, 2011 18:50 |  #16

cacawcacaw wrote in post #12006820 (external link)
Compared to the iPad, it's two and a half times heavier, much thicker, has only 3 hours of battery life, and most importantly, it lacks the iPads IPA display and smooth interface.

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Mar 12, 2011 19:00 |  #17

cacawcacaw wrote in post #12008163 (external link)
Except that the iPad can be used (clumsily) for the purpose I proposed

Its a matter of time. We don't know if it's Canon or Apple, or Canon simply doesn't bother to do it (which I'm willing to put my bet on). Software development isn't free.

Technically speaking the problem people look at iPad is they keep comparing it to PC w/o realizing how fundamentally different it is from PC. EOS utility is probably touchscreen-able, but no one figured out how to do DPP-ish stuff in a touchscreen friendly way. Some people will proceed to say "iPad is crap because it can't do X", which is a faulted logic.



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Mar 12, 2011 19:10 |  #18

cacawcacaw wrote in post #12008163 (external link)
Except that the iPad can be used (clumsily) for the purpose I proposed, so I can compare the iPad with other computers for this specific use. Unless you're saying that the iPad should only be compared in the uses that it excels at.

True love requires that you see your lover's faults and accept them for what they are. I'm only "in like" with the iPad.


...and I can hammer a nail in with a heavy crescent wrench, does that mean I should compare it to an actual hammer?

Get the right tool for the job. What you want to do is better suited for a laptop, plain and simple. I can't use inDesign or Illustrator on an iPad. You don't see me complaining. I have an understanding of a tools strengths and shortcomings.

Watch a movie or read a book... iPad. Process photos or lay out an album for print...laptop/desktop​. Simple.


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Mar 12, 2011 19:22 |  #19

tkbslc wrote in post #12008074 (external link)
I must be one of the only people that doesn't get what's so cool about a giant phone you can't make calls on.

+1

I'm on one right now ( my wife's) doing what it does best.


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Mar 12, 2011 19:24 |  #20

Rey wrote in post #12008660 (external link)
...and I can hammer a nail in with a heavy crescent wrench, does that mean I should compare it to an actual hammer?

Get the right tool for the job. What you want to do is better suited for a laptop, plain and simple. I can't use inDesign or Illustrator on an iPad. You don't see me complaining. I have an understanding of a tools strengths and shortcomings.

Watch a movie or read a book... iPad. Process photos or lay out an album for print...laptop/desktop​. Simple.

And if we all thought like that, we'd still be hammering with rocks! :lol:


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Mar 12, 2011 20:08 |  #21

unicronx wrote in post #12008580 (external link)
IPA, YOU SAY?:lol:

Okay, I guess my true loyalties have been exposed. How does the saying go? Something like, I'd rather have an IPA in front of me than an IPS...

Educational offering for those, like me, who don't know the difference between a display type and a beer type:
"LCD panels using TN tend to have a limited viewing angle relative to CRT and plasma displays. This reduces the number of people able to conveniently view the same image – laptop screens are a prime example. Usually when looking below the screen, it gets much darker; looking from above makes it look lighter. This distorts the colors and makes cheap LCD monitors unsuitable for work where color is important, such as in graphic design work, as the colors change when the eyes are moved slightly up or down, or when looking either at the top of the screen or at the bottom from a fixed position. Many displays based on thin film transistor variants such as IPS, MVA, or PVA, have much improved viewing angles; typically the color only becomes a little brighter when viewing at extreme angles, though much of the improvements on viewing angles has been done on lateral angles, not on vertical ones."

Point: iPad


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Mar 12, 2011 20:16 |  #22

HyperYagami wrote in post #12008621 (external link)
... Some people will proceed to say "iPad is crap because it can't do X", which is a faulted logic.

I think the iPad is an incredible hardware/software combo. And I originally spent a bunch of dough to switch to the iPhone for the same features. When I want to watch a movie in bed, I use a laptop. When I want to kill time in a waiting room, I use my Android phone. I just don't have a strong need for the in-between machine.

But, I'm going to give the Dell a try because I think it would be a gas to have the EOS camera utility on a tablet-type computer without spending $1,500. If it's underwhelming, I'll send it back.


Replacing my Canon 7D, Tokina 12-24mm, Canon 17-55mm, Sigma 30mm f/1.4, 85mm f/1.4, and 150-500mm with a Panasonic Lumix FZ1000. I still have the 17-55 and the 30 available for sale.

  
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Mar 12, 2011 22:00 |  #23

Rey wrote in post #12008660 (external link)
Watch a movie or read a book... iPad. Process photos or lay out an album for print...laptop/desktop​. Simple.


I must be weird, I use a large television to watch movies and I like to use an actual book to read a book.


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Mar 13, 2011 00:40 |  #24

cacawcacaw wrote in post #12008163 (external link)
Except that the iPad can be used (clumsily) for the purpose I proposed, so I can compare the iPad with other computers for this specific use. Unless you're saying that the iPad should only be compared in the uses that it excels at.

True love requires that you see your lover's faults and accept them for what they are. I'm only "in like" with the iPad.

My feelings are the same ... I'm also only "in like" with my iPad. The iPad tablet format shows a lot of promise, but it will probably be version 4 or 5 before it becomes really useful for me. Right now it's a nice portable device for email and web browsing with a great display for showing off images. Managing image files (or any other files) on the device is not that great.

I look forward to future tablets with USB or Thunderbolt ports, a portion of the internal storage using an accessible directory structure, built in SD reader, seamless integration with all off-site file sharing services such as SkyDrive, much improved touch screens where you can jot notes with better resolution (with pens that feel like pens), and the ability to view all web content, including Flash. With this I could run cloud Office applications while keeping my data on the device and effortlessly take notes during meetings ... both being very kludgy to do on the current iPad/iPad2.


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Mar 13, 2011 04:32 |  #25

Wow!
Cool netbook!

Now i feel like to replace my current netbook, though 3hours battery, that's a really bad batterylife. My current netbook does 10hours, or it did 2years ago, still does around 7hours without any hesitations.

But that's a really cool netbook, neat that you can fold the screen.


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Mar 13, 2011 08:02 |  #26

Does anyone know if Lightroom would run on this set up??

cacawcacaw wrote in post #12006820 (external link)
I drove to Fry's with a friend to pick up his new iPad2. While there, I noticed the new Dell Duo for about $500 and this morning I ordered one from Costco for $499 plus tax plus $15 shipping. I realize this is not a great deal, but these are pretty new and there's a fairly high probability that this will be returned, making Costco the best choice.

Compared to the iPad, it's two and a half times heavier, much thicker, has only 3 hours of battery life, and most importantly, it lacks the iPads IPA display and smooth interface.

But, it's a tablet with 320 GB of storage and it will run all of my software, including EOS camera controls. And, it has a full sized keyboard that can be easily concealed.

Wish me luck.

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Mar 13, 2011 08:56 |  #27

I dont know about this one but I have a dell mini 10v with the 1.6 atom processor and LR works but I wouldn't say it runs its more like a crawl ! looking at the specs I doubt this one is much faster

importing the pictures works ok if you do the minimal rendering, if you want to do a 1:1 preview on the 5DMKII raw files for example it takes forever !

I purchased the mini to use for using LR when traveling I did it once and have never used it again because it drove me crazy so I ended up purchasing a travel laptop which is still slow enough


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Mar 13, 2011 09:57 |  #28

cntry wrote in post #12010789 (external link)
Does anyone know if Lightroom would run on this set up??

Should run without any problems.

Runs fine on my Asus EEE PC 1000HE which is An N280 1.66Ghz Atom and 2GB DDR2.

May be a little slow depending on what you do, but surely it will run. These aren't really made for doing any post processing as it may be frustrating (i would know lol) from time to time.
The dell duo is a faster netbook, but by how much, i wouldn't really know.

I just saw that Asus has a netbook that is kind of like this one talked about in the thread, but it has 6.5hours of battery life and it seems to have about the same specs, cpu is Atom 1.66Ghz N450, 2GB and graphics card is the same + 320GB hdd, 10.1" screen. Also it's cheaper. Ofcourse it has a touchscreen(multitouch​) and the screen can be swiveled around so you have a tablet. Has 3 USB ports, the webcam is suckier on it though, not that it would matter.
Smaller screen resolution also, 1024x600, that's a little drawback.. SDHC and MMC card reader etc.

EDIT: I'm talking about the Asus PC TC101MT


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Mar 13, 2011 12:29 |  #29

Biggest problem with running image editing tools on these kinds of devices is the screen size and resolution. By the time you have a toolbar and tool palette open, you are left with maybe 640x480 for the actual image.


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Mar 13, 2011 13:06 |  #30

I was actually looking at this for a digital portfolio type. I already have a net book, and laptop, but to have an iPad is better to show your portfolio to a client: ips screen.

For what I use the iPad for, it excels at it which is a portable digital portfolio.


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