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Mar 14, 2011 21:27 as a reply to  @ post 12021324 |  #46

Maybe one day instead of all these technical crop vs ff debates, some one will do side by side showing any difference in QUALITY .. NOT FIELD OF VIEW ... between the two.

Can a seasoned eye look a photograph and tell by the quality, whether it is a full frame or crop?




  
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Mar 14, 2011 21:29 |  #47

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Doesn't the full frame cause the DOF to be thinner?

The FF body causes a thinner DOF because in order to get the same framing compared to an APS-C, you have to either change your distance or your focal length. Changing your distance has an added side effect of changing your perspective as well.


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kjonnnn wrote in post #12021340 (external link)
Maybe one day instead of all these technical crop vs ff debates, some one will do side by side showing any difference in QUALITY .. NOT FIELD OF VIEW ... between the two.

Can a seasoned eye look a photograph and tell by the quality, whether it is a full frame or crop?

That would be interesting. I bet some of the more "seasoned" guys would have a hard time.:p


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Mar 14, 2011 21:30 |  #49

kjonnnn wrote in post #12021340 (external link)
Maybe one day instead of all these technical crop vs ff debates, some one will do side by side showing any difference in QUALITY .. NOT FIELD OF VIEW ... between the two.

Can a seasoned eye look a photograph and tell by the quality, whether it is a full frame or crop?

I tried above... I would love to do another sample with my girls as modeling subjects, but it has long since been bedtime. :)


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Mar 14, 2011 21:32 |  #50

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My next body will be the 5DmrkIII (when it comes out) :p

You mean the 7Ds .. . :p


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Mar 14, 2011 21:32 |  #51

Brain Mechanic wrote in post #12021356 (external link)
That would be interesting. I bet some of the more "seasoned" guys would have a hard time.:p

I'm thinking, its the image that really counts. Have a side by side "Shoot Off" with a top full frame, and top crop. Compare the images.

When I went from full frame film, to crop digital, i really didnt notice the difference in field of view.




  
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Mar 14, 2011 21:34 |  #52

kjonnnn wrote in post #12021371 (external link)
When I went from full frame film, to crop digital, i really didnt notice the difference in field of view.

Ah, well that's because you're supposed to look through the viewfinder with an open eye.


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Mar 14, 2011 21:36 |  #53

Bendel wrote in post #12021388 (external link)
Ah, well that's because you're supposed to look through the viewfinder with an open eye.

So you're saying im stupid.




  
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Mar 14, 2011 21:40 |  #54

:lol:

kjonnnn wrote in post #12021396 (external link)
So you're saying im stupid.




  
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Mar 14, 2011 21:42 |  #55

kjonnnn wrote in post #12021396 (external link)
So you're your saying im stupid.

I didn't say it...;) Ha I was just having fun.

I just recently went from crop to FF and it was like night and day looking through a viewfinder. 100mm and 160mm is a noticeable difference


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Mar 14, 2011 21:55 |  #56

Aside from lower high ISO noise and full format field of view for my lenses (a preference from years of shooting with a film SLR), the single most important aspect of FF for me is the MUCH bigger and brighter viewfinder.


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Mar 14, 2011 22:00 |  #57

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Mar 14, 2011 22:13 |  #58

I think people seem to feel that full frame is a BETTER and SUPERIOR format. It isn't. It's just different.

APS-C 1.6 crop is smaller. But it's just as VALID of a format as full frame. It's just different.

Each have their own sets of advantages and drawbacks. But I'd NEVER EVER say one is superior to the other. Both are well within the range of delivering very high quality professional-grade imagery.

I think people just gotta stop thinking of FF as superior and just remember that 1.6 crop is just as valid of a format as 35mm. Remember, at one point 35mm was considered to be the crappy format for soccer moms and the clueless public.

Different, not superior.


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Mar 14, 2011 22:20 as a reply to  @ picturecrazy's post |  #59

Again if you shoot a lot of wide angle photography its a no brainer FF....




  
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picturecrazy wrote in post #12021587 (external link)
I think people seem to feel that full frame is a BETTER and SUPERIOR format. It isn't. It's just different.

APS-C 1.6 crop is smaller. But it's just as VALID of a format as full frame. It's just different.

Each have their own sets of advantages and drawbacks. But I'd NEVER EVER say one is superior to the other. Both are well within the range of delivering very high quality professional-grade imagery.

I think people just gotta stop thinking of FF as superior and just remember that 1.6 crop is just as valid of a format as 35mm. Remember, at one point 35mm was considered to be the crappy format for soccer moms and the clueless public.

Different, not superior.

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