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Mar 19, 2011 19:25 |  #241

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See that is a much better idea. I suggest you send it to TeamSpeed.

He did and I added 2 sections to my "ways to be informed" sticky. :)

I particularly like the last one, it is how I conduct my online business and has served me well as the underlying principle while doing due diligence outlined in the other sections. :)

As for hijacked accounts, which this may have been, it is much harder except to ask for photo proof of what you are getting, along with a home number to contact them. I will add a couple of these as pointers too.


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Mar 19, 2011 20:01 as a reply to  @ TeamSpeed's post |  #242

Mk1Racer wrote in post #12052461 (external link)
Which sucks. You pay for insurance, and when they screw up and loose / damage your package, you've got to jump through hoops and wait to get your money. It's one of the reasons I hate UPS. Although, I've never put a claim through on another carrier, so I don't know if they're any better or worse.


Ever since I have just tried to sell locally:lol:


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Mar 19, 2011 20:06 |  #243

My 400 f/2.8 has been sitting collecting dust because I have been to scared to sell it online (trying local only) because of 'horror' stories like these.


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Mar 19, 2011 20:31 |  #244

Skip Souza wrote in post #12051634 (external link)
Having a good physical address puts the seller on notice that they can be touched if they try to scam on the deal.

That is a good point.

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Mar 19, 2011 21:46 |  #245

Jaymz wrote in post #12052651 (external link)
My 400 f/2.8 has been sitting collecting dust because I have been to scared to sell it online (trying local only) because of 'horror' stories like these.

Have you taken note of the stories? Almost invariably they claim that the buyer is the victim, rarely the seller. In the vast majority of the scenarios, the buyer sends the funds and the seller fails to send the goods. This places the power and the security in the hands of the seller and requires the buyer to be exceedingly diligent in his research.


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Mar 19, 2011 21:52 |  #246

Skip Souza wrote in post #12053209 (external link)
Have you taken note of the stories? Almost invariably they claim that the buyer is the victim, rarely the seller. In the vast majority of the scenarios, the buyer sends the funds and the seller fails to send the goods. This places the power and the security in the hands of the seller and requires the buyer to be exceedingly diligent in his research.

I would also add that a lens like that is going to be tough to sell locally unless you are in a major metropolitan area.

I've sold/traded a lot of equipment here on POTN and haven't had any issues selling. Just be careful on a lens like that, as with buying look at the buyer's post history. Someone looking for that lens is going to be pretty serious about photography.


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Mar 20, 2011 07:15 |  #247

Skip Souza wrote in post #12053209 (external link)
Have you taken note of the stories? Almost invariably they claim that the buyer is the victim, rarely the seller. In the vast majority of the scenarios, the buyer sends the funds and the seller fails to send the goods. This places the power and the security in the hands of the seller and requires the buyer to be exceedingly diligent in his research.

For the most part Skip, I agree, the seller has the upper hand. But crooks can, and do work both sides of the street. You get the crooked buyers who claim that what came in the box is not what they paid for.

Granted, most scammers are lazy, and will pick another mark if one proves to be too difficult. Also, the amount of money involved is usually not worth a huge amount of effort when there are easier marks out there.


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Mar 20, 2011 07:32 |  #248

This same person scammed me out of 350.00 a week ago. I informed the moderator about him on Sunday.. too bad he still gets to roam here and screw folks. I called Paypal and warned them about him as well. They just shrugged their shoulders and pretty much said, Oh well dont worry you have PP protection since he is verified user. Im sure I will never see a dime of the money because his account will be empty. I too contacted through his Ebay account and he probably just hijacked that account. I had also warned Ebay on Sunday of that. As you can see no one takes these bastages serious and more victims fall.




  
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Mar 20, 2011 07:49 |  #249

I was under the impression it was PoTN policy that you couldn't post negative feedback about other members. I would take your post down mastertech.

I typically pay through paypal with a debit card. Don't call paypal, call your bank. Demand your money back. When you get it, Paypal has to get their cash from somewhere so they take it back from the seller.


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Mar 20, 2011 08:28 |  #250

Sp1207 wrote in post #12054946 (external link)
I was under the impression it was PoTN policy that you couldn't post negative feedback about other members. I would take your post down mastertech.

I typically pay through paypal with a debit card. Don't call paypal, call your bank. Demand your money back. When you get it, Paypal has to get their cash from somewhere so they take it back from the seller.

Wait, I just read the first 3 pages where 2 other people reported the same scammer for the same thing, but I am in violation? :rolleyes: If I knew I could get by with warning the forum with a thread like this I would have a week ago. I was shocked that these folks got by with it with the past determination of the mods NOT to allow neg feedback. I was simply confirming this thread with my own bad luck. Sorry...




  
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Mar 20, 2011 08:39 |  #251

Sp1207 wrote in post #12054946 (external link)
I was under the impression it was PoTN policy that you couldn't post negative feedback about other members. I would take your post down mastertech.

As long as a member is not identified or information posted that easily identify the person it is ok to post about the experience. But as soon as the member can be identified that crosses the line.


That said. mastertech01 did you provide the moderator all the relevant information etc including the name. I know we have tried to contact one individual being accused of scamming but I do not know if you are referring to the same. And that individual has been or will be banned. We will not tolerate scammers or members accused of scamming that do not respond to our demands for a response.


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Mar 20, 2011 08:42 |  #252

Yes, I clicked the little triangle warning box and gave the user name and pertinent information, plus I copied and pasted a couple paragraphs of details that I emailed to Ebay warning them of the same. I also told them of my contact with Paypal. I understand and told them I understood that they are not involved with the transaction, and all I wanted was to warn them of the scammer in our midst.




  
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Mar 20, 2011 11:38 |  #253

mastertech01 wrote in post #12054903 (external link)
This same person scammed me out of 350.00 a week ago. I informed the moderator about him on Sunday.. too bad he still gets to roam here and screw folks. I called Paypal and warned them about him as well. They just shrugged their shoulders and pretty much said, Oh well dont worry you have PP protection since he is verified user. Im sure I will never see a dime of the money because his account will be empty. I too contacted through his Ebay account and he probably just hijacked that account. I had also warned Ebay on Sunday of that. As you can see no one takes these bastages serious and more victims fall.

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Mar 20, 2011 12:02 |  #254

tommykjensen wrote in post #12055087 (external link)
As long as a member is not identified or information posted that easily identify the person it is ok to post about the experience. But as soon as the member can be identified that crosses the line.


What an absolutely ridiculous "policy" and is the reason I rarely come around here. But it is your house ...




  
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Mar 20, 2011 12:06 |  #255

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Dang

Louie - this could work for you. If Pay Pal was notified of the scammer on an earlier date and should have frozen his account THEN and you would not have been out anything as your money would have "bounced" back from the frozen account. Get the details on this - Then bright and early Monday morning call Pay Pal!

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