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Windy outdoor shooting...Is Carbon Fiber a must for a tripod?

 
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Mar 24, 2011 13:54 |  #1

I am a noobie and a hobbyist. I've been putting together a compact, lightweight kit for outdoor shooting, and I've decided on the Benro Transfunctional Travel Angel in the 0 series, (holds up to 13 lbs). It's really perfect for me, in every way.

I was all set to purchase the aluminum version, but really started to wonder...... When it comes to wind specifically, will CF make a big difference? The tripod has a weight hook, which I will definitely be using.

This area is windy on a regular basis. On the other hand, I am just a hobbyist, and I feel CF, at almost double the price for this model, is a bit extravagant for someone at my level. Any thoughts most welcome.




  
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Mar 24, 2011 14:14 |  #2

Why are you thinking that carbon fiber would be any better in wind? Not sure what the logic is here...It's 3 poles.


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Mar 24, 2011 14:22 as a reply to  @ Bendel's post |  #3

Carbon fibre is lighter and warmer to hold on a cold day. That's it. If those things are worth the extra cost to you, go for it.

I chose a CF tripod for trips involving air travel, but I keep a big tall aluminium one in the back of my car.


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Mar 24, 2011 14:25 |  #4

Carbon Fiber does dampen vibrations more than aluminum, but I'm not sure how much that would help in heavy wind.


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Mar 24, 2011 14:33 |  #5

Bendel wrote in post #12084532 (external link)
Why are you thinking that carbon fiber would be any better in wind? Not sure what the logic is here...It's 3 poles.

I don't think that, actually. I'm asking if other people think that.




  
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Mar 24, 2011 14:35 |  #6

thenextguy wrote in post #12084589 (external link)
Carbon Fiber does dampen vibrations more than aluminum, but I'm not sure how much that would help in heavy wind.

I guess it's the vibrations I'm wondering about. Besides wind, what else do I need to worry about?




  
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Mar 24, 2011 14:38 |  #7

Wind usually causes "rotational" issues so torsional rigidity is a big key in tripods. Especially with bigger lenses.

I have a mid-range Induro CF tripod and it's fine with everything up to my 500mm. The problem with the 500 isn't weight, it's the fact that in a strong breeze, it acts like a weather vane and the particular tripod I use tends to want to twist.


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Mar 24, 2011 14:40 |  #8

As Jay alluded to, you want the absolute biggest heaviest and most rigid tripod you can carry if you want to make photographs in the wind. A lightweight carbon fiber tripod won't cut the mustard.


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Mar 24, 2011 14:42 |  #9

The more windy it is the heavier you want your legs to be. Now, that means if you have a set of light CF legs then you will need to find a way to weight it down. Heck, even with my aluminum Manfrotto legs I sometimes will clip my back to them to weigh them down more. It all comes down to being solid....lighter is not more solid, it is just lighter.


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Mar 24, 2011 14:44 |  #10

Mike Bell wrote in post #12084578 (external link)
Carbon fibre is lighter and warmer to hold on a cold day. That's it. If those things are worth the extra cost to you, go for it.

I chose a CF tripod for trips involving air travel, but I keep a big tall aluminium one in the back of my car.

The model I'm looking at is under 3 lbs, so I'm OK with the weight. The temperature won't be a problem either.

I've just read so many discussions on 'vibrations,' and how CF handles them better. As a noobie, I'm assuming that wind is the primary culprit when it comes to causing vibrations.




  
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Mar 24, 2011 14:48 |  #11

As thenextguy said, it does damp (to "dampen" is to "get wet"!) vibration better than Al but price and weight would be deciding factors.


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Mar 24, 2011 14:49 |  #12

CF is more rigid than aluminum but may not be as stable as aluminum in wind. If you are OK with the weight of the aluminum tripod then get it, Benro makes a good quality product.

Two things about the tripod; I take it that "transfunctional" means that one of the legs comes off and can act as a monopod? That monopod will be shorter than a regular monopod and may not as usable as you think. The other thing is the number of leg sections, Benro make both 4 and 5-section legs in this series, go with a 4-section if you are OK with the folded length - more stable than a 5-section.

Also if you're planning on using the hook, get a large gate carabiner (external link) and hang your bag/weight from it so that it's resting on the ground and the strap is taut.


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Mar 24, 2011 14:56 |  #13

Thanks everyone, for the input, and the patience.. ;-)a. I really appreciate it, as this will be my first tripod.




  
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Mar 24, 2011 14:59 |  #14

SkipD wrote in post #12084698 (external link)
As Jay alluded to, you want the absolute biggest heaviest and most rigid tripod you can carry if you want to make photographs in the wind. A lightweight carbon fiber tripod won't cut the mustard.

This definitely helps--Thank you!




  
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Mar 24, 2011 15:13 |  #15

Wind does these things to a tripod...

It blows against the camera and lens, and this causes lateral movement of the whole works...weight fixes this.
It blows across the legs and sets up vibrational resonance in the legs, and the dampening of the material affects that...wood is better at dampening than aluminum (not sure how carbon fiber and resin stacks up against wooD)
It pushes on a long lens and twists the camera atop the column or spider of the tripod...the legs have some contribution to this, but it is also the ability of the spider and the tripod head to resist the torsional twisting.


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