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50D vs. 7D, am I stupid for going with the 50D?

 
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Mar 29, 2011 01:05 |  #16

50D is a great camera and you can keep it when you go to full frame as a backup. It handles sports and wildlife perfectly fine. good glass is more important anyway


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Mar 29, 2011 01:39 |  #17

No you are not stupid. You are wise, you know what you needed and pay for what you needed.

With the "unspent" money you could get much better lenses. It is pointless pouring in all the money to get the 7D but end with kit lens. You will be happier with 50D and better lenses.

If we are all rich and no problem with money, then yup, get the 7D and also a few L lenses to go.


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Mar 29, 2011 02:59 as a reply to  @ osprey23's post |  #18

Just out of curiosity...why not 60D?


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Mar 29, 2011 03:08 |  #19

Take out the video capability and the new AF system from the 7D and your left with pretty much a 50D anyways. since you will be getting a 5D (assuming cuz you said FF), its better off you save some money and get the 50D now so you can get the 5D sooner!


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Mar 29, 2011 04:49 |  #20

as long as you shoot under 800 iso, I doubt you would notice a difference in image quality.




  
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Mar 29, 2011 05:22 |  #21

Sauer Grapes wrote in post #12110484 (external link)
Getting ready to place an order through CLP. I'm upgrading from my 20D.

I'm not concerned with video at this point, and I have no plans to do sports or bird photography. The better AF does appeal to me, but I don't think I need it.

Anyway, the main reason for upgrading my 20D is that I'm not completely happy with the IQ, especially in low light situations. Also, more than 8 MP would be nice at this point.

Eventually I want to go full frame, but I'm not ready to drop that kind of money yet. I think the 50D through the CLP is my best choice, but are there other reasons besides video and the AF to consider the 7D more seriously, even though it'll be more than double the $$$?

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Mar 29, 2011 05:33 |  #22

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If your main reason for upgrading is the ISO performance of the 20D then newer models like the 60D, 7D, etc. will be better. In fact, using one comparison site, your old 20D has better ISO "low light" performance than the 50D !
see http://www.dxomark.com (external link)
or you can use the "comparometer" with different ISO levels among different DSLR cameras here:
http://www.imaging-resource.com/IMCOMP/CO​MPS01.HTM (external link)

Interesting...

MA is another reason, but I guess I expected a larger improvement from the 20D to the 50D. I'm sure to my untrained eye, the 50D will still seem like a huge improvement though.


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Mar 29, 2011 05:43 |  #23

Sauer Grapes wrote in post #12114950 (external link)
Interesting...

MA is another reason, but I guess I expected a larger improvement from the 20D to the 50D. I'm sure to my untrained eye, the 50D will still seem like a huge improvement though.

maybe, but if your eye becomes trained then that full frame model will look nicer and nicer ......




  
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Mar 29, 2011 05:58 |  #24

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Take out the video capability and the new AF system from the 7D and your left with pretty much a 50D anyways. since you will be getting a 5D (assuming cuz you said FF), its better off you save some money and get the 50D now so you can get the 5D sooner!

Well, quite honesty add the following to that list (from somebody that had multiple 50Ds and a 7D):


1) take away the 100% viewfinder
2) take away the better high ISO handling
3) take away the wireless flash capability
4) take away the newer more accurate metering
5) take away 3mpx in resolution
6) take away the customization of buttons, the electronic level and orientation linked AF, plus other little features
7) take away 10 AF points
8) take away the much longer battery life
9) take away C3


But in any case, just get the 50D and see if you like it, chances are you can flip it if not for about zero expense. There is no downside, just an upside really with a 50D purchase.


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Mar 29, 2011 06:47 |  #25

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Just out of curiosity...why not 60D?

For me, I came from a Xsi, and when the 60D came out, I went cash in hand to the store and buy it, and I was bummed out, the flippy screen felt toyish, the build feel to me felt like a large rebel. I went back several times trying to talk myself into it, and just could not. I kept saying it has the 7D processor, metering system, etc...I just figured I would have to save more fun money and buy the 7D, but then at a game a guy had a 50D, and I loved it.
I went home, CLP had the 50D on sale for $560 with a broken P&S camera, so I bought it. Every time I pick it up I get excited, I know the 60D had better ISO performance, metering system, but for me I felt like I was buying a rebel, and could not get over that feeling.
Bottomline is both are fine cameras, and people have to go use, touch and feel them, and decide.




  
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Mar 29, 2011 06:56 |  #26

westernminnguy wrote in post #12114560 (external link)
Just out of curiosity...why not 60D?

mark2009 wrote in post #12115117 (external link)
For me, I came from a Xsi, and when the 60D came out, I went cash in hand to the store and buy it, and I was bummed out, the flippy screen felt toyish, the build feel to me felt like a large rebel. I went back several times trying to talk myself into it, and just could not. I kept saying it has the 7D processor, metering system, etc...I just figured I would have to save more fun money and buy the 7D, but then at a game a guy had a 50D, and I loved it.
I went home, CLP had the 50D on sale for $560 with a broken P&S camera, so I bought it. Every time I pick it up I get excited, I know the 60D had better ISO performance, metering system, but for me I felt like I was buying a rebel, and could not get over that feeling.
Bottomline is both are fine cameras, and people have to go use, touch and feel them, and decide.

For me, not the 60D because:
1) I don't care about having video on my SLR at this time.
2) I don't like the fact it has a plastic body.
3) I want MA.
4) While I could probably afford to buy the 60D, I love the fact the 50D is so much cheaper through the CLP (I plan on buying the one with the kit lens and selling the lens for somewhere between $200-$300).


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Mar 29, 2011 08:17 |  #27

Sauer Grapes wrote in post #12110484 (external link)
Anyway, the main reason for upgrading my 20D is that I'm not completely happy with the IQ, especially in low light situations. Also, more than 8 MP would be nice at this point.

While the 50D is not a bad choice, the 7D will give you better high ISO performance than the 50D for the low light situations you mentioned.


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Mar 29, 2011 09:18 |  #28

You mentioned you were looking for better IQ. The T2i, T3i, 60D and 7D will give you better IQ than a 50D. While magnesium alloy (heavy) and MA (seldom actually needed) are nice why would you give up IQ and go back to a 50D when better choices are available for just a little more? IQ is the reason I didn't stick with a 50D and got rid of it quickly.

I think you've been reading too many posts on this board and buying into the MA and Magnesium crowd. If you want IQ, you are not making your best choice.




  
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Mar 29, 2011 09:23 |  #29

As I mention before, the 50D is a great camera and will serve you well, and yes is a smart move for a budgeted buyer, but if you are anything like me, I would feel not great if I know I could have gotten the 7D knowing is a better camera particularly if I can afford it without affecting the food I put on my table.

The latest like 7D, 5DII, even the 60D and the T3i is a considerable jump on IQ and High ISO performance from the 50D and older series.
The 7D is almost there with the 5Dc on High Iso, and that is pretty good IMO plus you have extended ISOs that you dont get on the 5Dc.
I used a T3 a few days ago and was pretty impressed with the high ISO , very clean very nice images, far from my original XSI.


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Mar 29, 2011 09:23 |  #30
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Sauer Grapes wrote in post #12115146 (external link)
For me, not the 60D because:
1) I don't care about having video on my SLR at this time.
2) I don't like the fact it has a plastic body.
3) I want MA.
4) While I could probably afford to buy the 60D, I love the fact the 50D is so much cheaper through the CLP (I plan on buying the one with the kit lens and selling the lens for somewhere between $200-$300).

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Canon 1d Mark III, IV, and 1Ds Mark III magnesium alloy construction with engineering plastic.
Canon 5d mkII Magnesium alloys and engineering plastic.
Canon 5d Magnesium alloys and part engineering plastic
Canon 7D Magnesium alloys and part engineering plastic
Canon 20d Magnesium Alloy and Plastic,
Canon 60D has Aluminum chassis, with Fiberglass-reinforced polycarbonate resin with engineering plastic.*
Canon T2i/550d stainless steel chassis with engineering plastic'
Canon 450d stainless steel chassis with 'engineering plastic' and the body made of a special lightweight polycarbonate resin with glass fiber.
Canon 50d stainless steel frame covered with a magnesium alloy body with engineering plastic.

New 600d Stainless Steel and polycarbonate resin with engineering plastic and 600D hasn't any weather sealing in its body construction*.

That's allot of (PLASTIC) don't you think soooooooo???:D


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