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Anyone use Alien Skin Bokeh 2?

 
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Mar 29, 2011 16:36 |  #16

I had to select the subjects in the photos above to bokeh everything but them. Their are acutally a whole bunch of options in Bokeh 2 that I haven't taken the time to learn how to use. I know I can select out what I don't want Bokehed and then go in and tell it to use a normal bokeh off a 70-200 2.8 IS II to a 400 2.8 to a 50 1.8 all in a single click, that really saves time if you have more than one to work on.

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The fuzzy halo you see is because, I'm guessing, they applied the blurring to the entire photo, and then used layers and then masked back the foreground subjects. By applying blurring to the entire photo, they also effectively blurred the subjects in the foreground, creating a halo around them.

That's why you want to make a selection of the area to be blurred, and then have the plugin only blur that selection. I do that all the time with FocalPoint - it can work with selections. I don't think Bokeh 2 can work with selections but I haven't tried.


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Mar 29, 2011 16:46 |  #17

solara wrote in post #12118865 (external link)
Some people will say the blurring from these plugins are effectively the same as PS's own blurring - I can't say since I haven't done extensive testing.

But the plugins have their own features that PS doesn't have - like FocalPoint's selective brushing of blurring (and the brushing effect is additive, so some areas that you want slightly blurred would get a few brushes, while others that you want to be sharp, get lots of brushing, etc.), or Bokeh's creative highlights.

Just bokefied the original sports image in CS5's lens blur to compare, and I'm going to have to say the specular highlights of Bokeh2's is better and more natural looking, but CS5 does a wonderful job in the intersecting lines. The selective blurring you're mentioning with brushes can be achieved in CS5 with gradient masks and brushes as well. My conclusion is CS5 lens blur works great as long as the material you're starting with is completely sharp. In this image it wasn't, so it made the specular highlights themselves a little too blury. I'd say they're both great, Bokeh2 does better when backgrounds are already a little blurry

The first one is BOKEH2, second is CS5 lens blur


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Mar 29, 2011 19:30 |  #18

@Yasko, the gradient using the brush in FocalPoint is a bit different than creating a gradient in PS. It's a brush so you can brush in fine areas to decrease the blurring effect. This is required to do complex DOF where a simple planar gradient will look fake. You CAN do a realistic gradient in PS and then apply the blurring, but it takes a lot more time than using a simple brush.

To the OP, download both the trials for FocalPoint and Bokeh and try them out.


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Apr 02, 2012 08:35 |  #22

JordansDigitalDreams wrote in post #12105959 (external link)
=Jordan'sDigitalDreams​;12105959]Yes, I use it mainly in sports beause its a little less noticable but I have used it in several of my portraits and it is awesome, produces a truly naturl looking bokeh. Here is a example I done with a sports pic

Very nicely done!


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