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First impressions of my 60D...great little camera..no disappointments

 
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Mar 29, 2011 06:17 as a reply to  @ post 12114586 |  #46

I use my camera for taking photos, not driving nails.




  
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Mar 29, 2011 09:46 |  #47

dave kadolph wrote in post #12111936 (external link)
Perhaps it is a question of age and experience--approaching retirement and work in heavy industry.

Thermoplastics don't hold up well in high stress environments--and in military environments they serve as handles or bumpers to absorb shock--not structural members.

Take a look at a MILSPEC pelican case--the hinge pins, latch pins, and lock eyes are all high grade stainless ;)

I understand what you are saying but for the vast majority of camera users it simply isn't necessary. A camera body is nothing more than a handle and bumper for the internals. You would scramble the insides long before the body would crack open.

If you feel you really need that, and very very few of us do, then you have other options, and that's a good thing. But again, do you know of anyone who has ever broken a camera body? I'm still waiting for that story about the cracked body.

For most of us it's nice to save weight and money. And for the same reason few of us have or need Pelican cases even though we all have the option to buy them.




  
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Mar 29, 2011 17:07 |  #48

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I would love to know what people are doing to their cameras that they feel Magnesium Alloy is so important? Magnesium alloy adds weight and cost. Poly carbonate over a metal frame is stronger than what the Army uses for a lot of combat equipment.

When was the last time you heard of some one cracking open their camera body and if you know of some one like that (I don't), exactly how did they manage to do it?

It's much ado about nothing. Be glad for the cost and weight savings and move on.

I was comparing 60D vs 7D 4 days a row. Last think that popped in my head, was that they had diferent bodymaterials..
60D has very good and nicely designed body.


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Mar 29, 2011 18:22 |  #49

Klamber wrote in post #12119313 (external link)
I was comparing 60D vs 7D 4 days a row. Last think that popped in my head, was that they had diferent bodymaterials..
60D has very good and nicely designed body.

I have both the 60D and 7D. I've owned several Canon cameras. Once upon a time I owned a 1DIIn(outstanding camera) that originally sold new for over $4,500.

These are all great cameras....not a one did I buy based on whether or not the body would stand up in a crash test....that's a marketing ploy...wish folks would get that.:rolleyes:

Ever watch a video of a crash test dummies. Your camera going to volunteer for that video..regardless of brand...really???

A camera is like an instrument...like binoculars...like a telescope....you've got to care for your investment.

What a camera isn't...is a punching bag.

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Mar 29, 2011 18:29 |  #50

westernminnguy wrote in post #12119779 (external link)
A camera is like an instrument...like binoculars...like a telescope....you've got to care for your investment.

What a camera isn't...is a punching bag.

:)

My cameras and lenses are tools- -like a hammer or a wrench--and they must stand up to whatever is required and deliver consistent results.

Depends on your expectations?


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Mar 29, 2011 21:30 |  #51

dave kadolph wrote in post #12119828 (external link)
My cameras and lenses are tools- -like a hammer or a wrench--and they must stand up to whatever is required and deliver consistent results.

Depends on your expectations?

I don't think I've ever used the words: hammer, wrench and camera in the same sentence before today.

I think a 1-Series camera is where you want to be. Maybe a 5D2.




  
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Mar 29, 2011 22:33 |  #52

dave kadolph wrote in post #12119828 (external link)
My cameras and lenses are tools- -like a hammer or a wrench--and they must stand up to whatever is required and deliver consistent results.

For driving a nail or turning a bolt, my camera generally isn't the first thing I reach for, but I'm sure the magnesium bodies will work for that in a pinch. :lol:

Note to self: do not buy any camera bodies from dave kadolph, especially when he says "well cared for", as that just means he hit the nails with his a bit more gently (and thus, to get the job done, more often). :lol:


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Mar 29, 2011 22:34 |  #53

robtaylor22 wrote in post #12120987 (external link)
I don't think I've ever used the words: hammer, wrench and camera in the same sentence before today.

I think a 1-Series camera is where you want to be. Maybe a 5D2.

Well, at least all that pounding on nails won't have a noticeable effect on the 5D2's autofocus system! :lol:

(ahem....just kidding, of course...)


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Mar 29, 2011 23:34 as a reply to  @ kcbrown's post |  #54

Think about a Glock or SA-XD or similar. This equipment can endure years of abuse without incident. Much of the magnesium thing is purely marketing. I admit myself that's pretty cool but I still purchased a 60D over a 7D




  
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Mar 29, 2011 23:56 |  #55

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Think about a Glock or SA-XD or similar. This equipment can endure years of abuse without incident. Much of the magnesium thing is purely marketing. I admit myself that's pretty cool but I still purchased a 60D over a 7D

Yeah, but can you pound nails in with a Glock or XD? I mean, in today's trying economic times, you need your tools to be as multi-purpose as possible! :lol:


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Mar 30, 2011 10:45 |  #56

Klamber wrote in post #12119313 (external link)
I was comparing 60D vs 7D 4 days a row. Last think that popped in my head, was that they had diferent bodymaterials..
60D has very good and nicely designed body.

Here is a chart I made today to compare body weight and size amongst the xxD line, then included the T2i and 7D.

It is an interesting view, I think! Especially for those that say that the 60D appears to be rebel-like. ;)

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Mar 30, 2011 13:20 |  #57

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Here is a chart I made today to compare body weight and size amongst the xxD line, then included the T2i and 7D.

It is an interesting view, I think! Especially for those that say that the 60D appears to be rebel-like. ;)

Ha! I've said several times that the 60D reminds me of the 20D in its size and weight.


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Mar 30, 2011 16:13 |  #58

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The concern with the 60D being now made of plastic is that its predecessor was made of magnesium and its direct competition (the Nikon D7000) is made from magnesium, thus the perceived build quality of the 60D is inferior and in line with the lesser Rebel series of cameras.

Yes.. much in the way that the "plastic" Corvette is inferior to the metal Camero :-)




  
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Mar 30, 2011 16:19 |  #59

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One of the best things about the 60d (for me) is the sdhc cards. They're really macbook pro friendly and I don't have to carry a card reader around anymore like I would when I used my old compact flash cards. What a relief!!!;)

Yup. I have dozens of devices that support SDHC.. I even have a few CF to SDHC adapters... once I saw the world moving the SD direction, I didn't want to buy new CF cards for my older cameras.

And the new UHS mode on SDHC/SDXC pretty much erases any speed advantage of CF (and then, only CF in UDMA mode). Yes, a CF card will always have more potential capacity, but given the 32GB SDHC card in my 60D, and 128GB cards out now, for $250 and falling, I don't see capacity becoming a huge issue again.




  
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Mar 30, 2011 17:47 |  #60

hazydave wrote in post #12126362 (external link)
Yes.. much in the way that the "plastic" Corvette is inferior to the metal Camero :-)

Actually, fixing a metal panel on a Camaro was much cheaper and quicker than the fiberglass bodies on the vette.

I had 4 camaros (3 x L98 and 1 x LT1/LT4) and a Z06, I know of what I speak!

4 of these 5 vehicles all ended up at the body shop for one thing or another, some good, some not so good. :)


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