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Spent the last 10 days with a 1DM4

 
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Mar 30, 2011 23:25 |  #1

I was getting ready to pull the trigger on a 1DM4 when a buddy suggested I borrow one from CPS. They shipped to me on the 19 and I've been using itbalongside my 5dM2 and 7d for the last 10 days. It's a great camera but I don't think I can bring myself to spend $5000 on it. It just doesn't seem to offer much bang for the buck compared to my 7d which it would replace. Focus doesn't seem any better and in many cases I find the center point seems to be too big and locks onto something near the center but not what I'm aiming at. The final factor was image quality. It's great but so are the images from the other 2 cameras. When I dumped pics from all 3 cameras in one folder and reviewed them with my fiancé it really wasn't obvious which came from the 1dm4. I had several friends and family review them. In the end I decided that if I was going to spend $5k on a camera I wanted to see more than slight improvements over my current gear. I honestly feel like it would be a really dumb move. Anyone else been there? Maybe there will be a1Ds Mark4?


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Mar 30, 2011 23:51 |  #2

I don't have any of the 1 series, but I believe the benefits of the one series are more in the ergonomics of it, the extra buttons and the integrated battery grip are a sign of this. Also, the weather sealing might be a factor to consider if you need to shoot in harsh conditions.


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Mar 30, 2011 23:58 |  #3

I was there, I think the 1d Mark 4 blows away the 7d at anything over 800 ISO. I thought the 7d autofocused great but really was soft over 800-1600 iso. The grain wasn't too appealing to me either. I think the 1d mark 4 is only slightly better image quality than the 5d mark ii and at times it is just equal. I'd even venture to say at some things the 5d mark ii would be even better.

I still feel that the 1d4 autofocuses amazingly well and fast.

Here are a couple high iso examples
3200

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4000 - no noise reduction -
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or 12800 - again no noise reduction. would make an excellent 5x7 or 4x6 print
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Mar 31, 2011 01:06 |  #4

The 7D noticeably slows down to 5-6fps under low light, and the higher fps on 1D would be almost double, and a necessity for some sports.


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Mar 31, 2011 02:46 |  #5

Enjoy using it. The high iso usability is pretty amazing.




  
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Mar 31, 2011 07:15 |  #6

ogre1231 wrote in post #12129658 (external link)
Enjoy using it. The high iso usability is pretty amazing.

Yes. For sports, the tracking and low light/high ISO capability is terrific.

If your uses don't require those attributes, other bodies may work very well.

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Mar 31, 2011 09:05 |  #7

Anyone who says the 7D focus is the same or just as good as 1DM4 probably would be fine with a REBEL :)


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Mar 31, 2011 09:56 |  #8

yeah its for sure not as good, its good but not as good


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Mar 31, 2011 10:03 |  #9

AzzKicker wrote in post #12130604 (external link)
Anyone who says the 7D focus is the same or just as good as 1DM4 probably would be fine with a REBEL :)

:lol::lol::lol:


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Mar 31, 2011 10:09 |  #10

I am sure I would feel the same with with a 1D series... I don't need what those bodies have, especially for the price! I am sure they are awesome, but I would rather spend the money on lenses :)

Just be glad you don't have to hand over $5,000 now on it!


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Mar 31, 2011 10:11 |  #11

Zivnuska wrote in post #12130206 (external link)
ISO 12,800 SOOC
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After pp in Lightroom 3 and noiseware pro.
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QUOTED IMAGE

The second picture looks to have signs of excessive sharpening, after the NR Blur, not sure if the tradeoff worth it.


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Mar 31, 2011 10:15 |  #12
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AzzKicker wrote in post #12130604 (external link)
Anyone who says the 7D focus is the same or just as good as 1DM4 probably would be fine with a REBEL :)


Hhehehehe....yeah, I was about to say too. What did the OP shoot? If you aren't shooting in the most lighting demanding situation with FAST moving subjects, a Rebel would fine too....


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Mar 31, 2011 10:15 |  #13

offcamber wrote in post #12129043 (external link)
I was getting ready to pull the trigger on a 1DM4 when a buddy suggested I borrow one from CPS.

I did the same, after the week or so I spent with it, I had no desire to replace my 5D MKII's with one. Just wasn't that impressed, and the downsides were greater than the upsides for me. I figure I'll wait to see what the next 5D's look like.


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Mar 31, 2011 10:32 |  #14

timnosenzo wrote in post #12130976 (external link)
I did the same, after the week or so I spent with it, I had no desire to replace my 5D MKII's with one. Just wasn't that impressed, and the downsides were greater than the upsides for me. I figure I'll wait to see what the next 5D's look like.

Exactly, its best to try them out. A 5D and Mark IV are two different beast. The upside to the 1D though is it can do things that the 5D can do :) but the 5D can't do some things the 1D can do. But then it comes at a price. For example, I do sports, portraits and weddings. The 1D can handle all three excellently. But the 5D can do only 1 of those excellently, and the other Great, and the other not good. The Fast Focus of the 1D is awesome for Sports and Weddings. Not so much with the 5D or 7D.


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Mar 31, 2011 10:39 |  #15

gmazza wrote in post #12130954 (external link)
The second picture looks to have signs of excessive sharpening, after the NR Blur, not sure if the tradeoff worth it.

yeah, i like the grainy first one also...


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