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Lens with a short subject distance

 
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Apr 03, 2011 05:17 |  #1

I've just been able to create a small studio in my garage only to find the lenses I have currently don't quite work for the distance available to me.
It is a very small studio and I would like to do some portraiture (including full body shots). I have about 2-3 metres (6.5 - 9.5 foot) of space available to me to put between my subject and myself. Do you know of any lenses that take nice portrait shots, including full body for such a short distance?


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Apr 03, 2011 05:22 |  #2

sigma 30mm 1.4 comes to mind, but whats wrong with your 16-35? Surely thats wide enough?


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Apr 03, 2011 06:23 as a reply to  @ Sirrith's post |  #3

Your 16-35 should be wide enough but, whatever lens you use, that isn't enough room for full body shots without introducing perspective issues that will affect your subject noticeably.

A good portrait length for your 7D would be around 50mm, the wider you go from that the more you will affect perspective, at 35mm you should get reasonable proportions with care, but as you go wider from that the body parts nearest the camera will become increasingly enlarged, relative to those further away.




  
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Apr 03, 2011 06:41 as a reply to  @ sandpiper's post |  #4

Your 16-35mm will work fine..


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Apr 03, 2011 07:05 |  #5

enoto wrote in post #12147812 (external link)
I've just been able to create a small studio in my garage only to find the lenses I have currently don't quite work for the distance available to me.
It is a very small studio and I would like to do some portraiture (including full body shots). I have about 2-3 metres (6.5 - 9.5 foot) of space available to me to put between my subject and myself. Do you know of any lenses that take nice portrait shots, including full body for such a short distance?

Short camera-subject distance (not focal length choice) causes perspective distortion. It is something that you should fully understand because if the camera is too close, the result is often not pleasing to the subject.

For more information on perspective and how to control it, please read our "sticky" (now found in the General Photography Talk forum) tutorial titled Perspective Control in Images - Focal Length or Distance?.


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Apr 03, 2011 08:52 |  #6

Try adding a short (12mm) tube to the lens, MFD will be less. But Skip makes the best point - small = close = odd perspective perhaps.


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Apr 03, 2011 21:55 |  #7

I'm happy enough to use the 16-35 but the perspective issues worry me a little


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Apr 03, 2011 22:11 |  #8

enoto wrote in post #12152026 (external link)
I'm happy enough to use the 16-35 but the perspective issues worry me a little

It's not the lens, it's how close to the subject you are. If you have to use a 35mm lens to fill the frame because you lack space, then another space and a longer lens should be had.


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Apr 03, 2011 22:28 |  #9

windpig wrote in post #12152120 (external link)
It's not the lens, it's how close to the subject you are.

Technically yes, but really that's a pretty pointless argument....If you're trying to take a full body portrait of someone, you're going to try to fill the frame as best you can. With a 16-35 you're going to be causing perspective problems because you're going to fill the frame with the subject. The fact is he's out of room, so saying that he can back up and crop down to the same perspective as a 85mm lens is meaningless because he can't. I understand the idea behind saying it's the distance...but what happens in real world practice is what matters, nobody crops their images 75% so they get the same perspective.

Quick edit: I realize you didn't say that's what he should do.

Is there any way you can organize your space so you can stand through a doorway to take the shot with a longer lens? Maybe moving the room around when you wish to take full body portraits is your best option.


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Apr 03, 2011 22:33 |  #10

Bendel wrote in post #12152210 (external link)
Is there any way you can organize your space so you can stand through a doorway to take the shot with a longer lens? Maybe moving the room around when you wish to take full body portraits is your best option.

It's funny you say that 'cause that's what I do sometimes.


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Apr 03, 2011 22:43 |  #11

windpig wrote in post #12152236 (external link)
It's funny you say that 'cause that's what I do sometimes.

I've taken baby pictures in a tiny apartment and taken a shot at an angle through a doorway and partially down the hallway. Only way to do it sometimes...ha


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