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Off to Africa, need a good wildlife lens!

 
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Apr 09, 2011 10:48 |  #31

Thank you for that review. I will go out and test drive one today. It may be a great big brother to my 70-200 f/4L, and a replacement to my less than happy 300 and 400L's

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Apr 09, 2011 10:54 |  #32

Scott, the bigger Canon primes are very consistent in quality and so i would check your approach to handling them rather than look to replace. I've had three 400mm's and all identical. The 400 and 70-200 make a great safari combo on a two body set up. The 300mm is a nice lens but tends to be not long enough in some instances and too long in others.


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Apr 09, 2011 12:33 |  #33

Ok... I am having second thought now: New combo Canon 70-300mm L + Canon 400mm L f/5.6 !!!???


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Apr 09, 2011 13:20 |  #34
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you can get some pretty awesome up close lion shots with the sigma 10-20.

They wont even complain when their noses are hugeish.

Serious talk:
I think a longer lens would be better, like 3-400 mm


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Apr 09, 2011 13:32 |  #35

The Canon 400mm F5.6 is light, not sealed and you must have steady hands or you will loose a lot of shots. The 400F5.6 is great for biding but for a safari I would say something with IS like 300F4.0L which have IS and will accept an extender 1.4X for extra reach.

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Apr 09, 2011 15:01 |  #36

100-400

A little OT but check this blog out, some very cool info and images:


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Apr 09, 2011 15:09 |  #37

Alex_Venom wrote in post #12183159 (external link)
Renting or buying? What's your budget?

If buying in a budget, I'd say look into the 100-400L, Sigma 150-500 and Sigma 50-500.
If renting, I'd say look into the 400 f/2.8L IS, 300 f/2.8L + 2x III tele or 500 f/4L IS.

I totally agree to this. The 70-200 might be a bit short on occasion but I doubt you'll find yourself too long with 100 instead of 70 mm.

The rented primes might be too heavy and arkward to handle when in a large group on a truck. Basically, the 300/2.8 is perfectly handholdable,at least for a short period of time.

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Apr 10, 2011 09:36 |  #38

Do not take the Sigma 150-500. Great size but lousy performance on some units.. I had a Canon 100-400 (higly recommend) that was a fine lens but it was stolen in Costa Rica.. Great for wildlife..certainly not light weight but you are going to a maybe once in a life time opportunity > I would take anything I had too, weight wise and size wise, to be sure I got the best photos possible...the world is changing politically and physically and these chances may not present themselves again. In 1968 I went to India without enough film of flash bulbs thinking I could get more there...not the case..none available but thought then there would always be other times...not the case...Get the best lens/gear you can possibly afford or lug...you will not regret it!


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Apr 10, 2011 12:53 |  #39

Lady Tori wrote in post #12183022 (external link)
As the title suggests I'm taking a trip to Africa soon with my 7D

It's a pretty big continent, where exactly are you going and what type of safari will you be joining?


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Apr 10, 2011 14:43 |  #40

I went to the Masai Mara a couple of years ago and look the 24-70, 100-400 and a 500 using them as follows:
24-70mm - 3% of images
100-200mm - 17% of images
201-300mm - 11% of images
301-400mm - 21% of images
500mm - 48% of images

I am going back later this year and will take the same lenses with me again.




  
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Apr 10, 2011 16:08 |  #41
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simonjs wrote in post #12195153 (external link)
I went to the Masai Mara a couple of years ago and look the 24-70, 100-400 and a 500 using them as follows:
24-70mm - 3% of images
100-200mm - 17% of images
201-300mm - 11% of images
301-400mm - 21% of images
500mm - 48% of images

I am going back later this year and will take the same lenses with me again.

Did you have a program figure this out? Can aperture do this?

Pretty neat...


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Apr 10, 2011 16:30 |  #42

sbattey wrote in post #12195547 (external link)
Did you have a program figure this out? Can aperture do this?

Pretty neat...

I used an old version of Breeze Browser to export the EXIF data to Excel and worked the percentages out.




  
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Apr 10, 2011 19:09 |  #43

I'm going to be the dissenting voice here - the 70-200 can be more than enough. It depends largely on where you go though. I was in Sanbona, South Africa last year and I rarely felt limited by 200mm. Just to give a few examples


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Of course there was occasions where 200mm wasn't enough to give a closeup, but that will be true of any focal length:
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In the end I liked the environmental portraits of the animals much better than the close ups. If you want an awesome closeup of a lion's head, just google "lion" and you'll get a ton of images. People have been photographing lions for a long time and there are some really good shots available. No point in replicating that. Instead it's much more interesting to photograph the animal in the context of it's natural environment.

My first advice would hence be - don't forget to bring a wide angle!


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Apr 10, 2011 19:39 |  #44

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In the end I liked the environmental portraits of the animals much better than the close ups. If you want an awesome closeup of a lion's head, just google "lion" and you'll get a ton of images. People have been photographing lions for a long time and there are some really good shots available. No point in replicating that. Instead it's much more interesting to photograph the animal in the context of it's natural environment.

My first advice would hence be - don't forget to bring a wide angle!


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Apr 10, 2011 20:08 |  #45

Maybe I missed it, but where are your traveling. I have spent so much time in Africa that I am probably more African than my African wife who grew up in Soweto and fled during the apertheid era.

For all the safaris I have been on, my best memories are of the people I have met when not on safari. Are you planning something other than a safari?


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