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Apr 09, 2011 14:17 |  #1801

Hello everyone!

I was wondering if anyone knew someplace that rents cameras in Phoenix? My wife is down there for a friend's birthday party and my Mark III came up with an err99 on her. She's supposed to be the unofficial photographer and she didn't take any of my other two cameras. The party is tomorrow, so I can't mail her one of our other cameras.

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Apr 09, 2011 14:26 |  #1802

DDCSD wrote in post #12190054 (external link)
Hello everyone!

I was wondering if anyone knew someplace that rents cameras in Phoenix? My wife is down there for a friend's birthday party and my Mark III came up with an err99 on her. She's supposed to be the unofficial photographer and she didn't take any of my other two cameras. The party is tomorrow, so I can't mail her one of our other cameras.

Thanks for any help!

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I would call tempe first..


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Apr 09, 2011 14:53 |  #1803

Thanks we'll try them!


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Apr 09, 2011 19:16 as a reply to  @ DDCSD's post |  #1804

A buddy from work called and had a shoot lined up for his American Legion/Motorcycle group photo. The photog cancelled and he is in need of a replacement for 9am in the morning. There will be 40 people and motorcycles.

I have no idea about pay or if it's charity, so I would go into to it from the charity side, and if paid, all the better.

PM or post and I will put you in contact with the gentleman for more info.

It's in the 32nd and Bell area.

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Apr 09, 2011 23:07 |  #1805

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A buddy from work called and had a shoot lined up for his American Legion/Motorcycle group photo. The photog cancelled and he is in need of a replacement for 9am in the morning. There will be 40 people and motorcycles.

I have no idea about pay or if it's charity, so I would go into to it from the charity side, and if paid, all the better.

PM or post and I will put you in contact with the gentleman for more info.

It's in the 32nd and Bell area.

Kenny.

I'm guessing 32st right? if I wasn't working it would be a nice reason to go for a ride to there and take the shot.


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Apr 10, 2011 11:50 |  #1806

In case anyone didnt see this.

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Apr 10, 2011 11:55 |  #1807


$400 for the day... ouch! Thanks for the link
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Apr 10, 2011 12:20 |  #1808

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$400 for the day... ouch! Thanks for the link
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C'mon Hatch - you get "one or two prints", too

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Apr 10, 2011 14:06 |  #1809

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C'mon Hatch - you get "one or two prints", too

AND LUNCH!


Nothing against Bruce Dorn...very accomplished guy... but... I can see $200 for the day... maybe... with something for portfolio building... maybe toss in a Bruce Dorn stripbox for the $400?

I've watched him in the Photovision dvd's and if the class is going to be something along those lines... then $100-200 would be fair.

But... lol... who am I? I just know I won't be attending. :)



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Apr 10, 2011 15:22 |  #1810

Hmmm, not that I want to be the center of attention or anything, 'cause I do still think of myself as one of the FNGs around here, but it seem like whenever I bring up the money aspect of things I just get dead silence back. Am I violating some unwritten rule or something?

I know that my business model does not fit with what most 'pro photographers' are looking to do, but I assure you it is quite inline with the well established market for this type of business across the country for motorsports event photography.

Personally I'd much rather be making a living at this like guys like Mark Rieblas (external link), and I think I have the potential for that, but it isn't in the cards at the moment.

Anyhow, would appreciate some feedback if I am out of line or committing some sort of faux pas.

But if nobody's really interested, then I suppose that's just fine too. :)


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Apr 10, 2011 15:51 |  #1811

Dean Rachwitz wrote in post #12195339 (external link)
Hmmm, not that I want to be the center of attention or anything, 'cause I do still think of myself as one of the FNGs around here, but it seem like whenever I bring up the money aspect of things I just get dead silence back. Am I violating some unwritten rule or something?

I know that my business model does not fit with what most 'pro photographers' are looking to do, but I assure you it is quite inline with the well established market for this type of business across the country for motorsports event photography.

Personally I'd much rather be making a living at this like guys like Mark Rieblas (external link), and I think I have the potential for that, but it isn't in the cards at the moment.

Anyhow, would appreciate some feedback if I am out of line or committing some sort of faux pas.

But if nobody's really interested, then I suppose that's just fine too. :)

Dean... I missed it?

I remember talking about offering to cover specific riders for the day? I know the guy I shot dirt track racing did this... he would approach the racers at the track and offer to shoot them for "X" amount during the day. He shot other people as well... but.. once he got the images he needed he put them online... the people he covered that is....

Another thing he did... he would print 11x14's and pass them off to the drivers... with a small watermark and his contact info... this showed them the level of his work and broke the ice.

Just some thoughts.

What were your original questions?
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Apr 10, 2011 16:44 |  #1812

Dean Rachwitz wrote in post #12195339 (external link)
Hmmm, not that I want to be the center of attention or anything, 'cause I do still think of myself as one of the FNGs around here, but it seem like whenever I bring up the money aspect of things I just get dead silence back. Am I violating some unwritten rule or something?

I know that my business model does not fit with what most 'pro photographers' are looking to do, but I assure you it is quite inline with the well established market for this type of business across the country for motorsports event photography.

Personally I'd much rather be making a living at this like guys like Mark Rieblas (external link), and I think I have the potential for that, but it isn't in the cards at the moment.

Anyhow, would appreciate some feedback if I am out of line or committing some sort of faux pas.

But if nobody's really interested, then I suppose that's just fine too. :)

Dean, I'm happy for you. I'm glad that you are making some profit in what you are doing, and it is TOUGH making money when you shoot riders. Your are competing for their fuel, tire, repair, upgrade budget.

If you are getting anyone to buy prints, I'd be estatic!


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Apr 10, 2011 19:21 |  #1813

Hatch1921 wrote in post #12195490 (external link)
Dean... I missed it?

I remember talking about offering to cover specific riders for the day? I know the guy I shot dirt track racing did this... he would approach the racers at the track and offer to shoot them for "X" amount during the day. He shot other people as well... but.. once he got the images he needed he put them online... the people he covered that is....

Another thing he did... he would print 11x14's and pass them off to the drivers... with a small watermark and his contact info... this showed them the level of his work and broke the ice.

Just some thoughts.

What were your original questions?
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I was responding to sundevilstormin's comment on your computations on the ROI of the Groupon deal. Great write-up, btw. He said, "Is anyone making any money in this biz?" I know his question was probably rhetorical, but I thought it might be useful to mention my situation in that I am making a little money, but not in the traditional way. I suppose my thought was to get some ideas going on how one can find a niche that will bring in some cash. Like Kenny and his aerial photography.

I am quite confident that there are dozens more sporting events that you could cover using my formula every month and put several hundred dollars in your pocket - its just a matter of investing the time and developing the market. I already have the system down and all of the infrastructure, I just need skilled and motivated photographers.

And thanks for the suggestions. I have considered offering packages to riders that would get them more attention and have also considered printing samples. One of the guys who shoots for me made a 20x30 of a shot I got of him and we showed it at the riders meeting before the trackday. I am sure that helped make some sales. During the last event, I took my iPad with me and part way through the day I uploaded several photos straight from the camera to the iPad and walked through the pits showing them to some potential customers. The reaction was overwhelmingly positive and I am sure contributed to my sales for that event.

I really could make more money at this. I have several ideas that are sure to increase sales, but I am up against that old work/life balance conundrum. So I need to figure out how to work smarter, not harder. :cool: I can't really increase my time commitment, so I need to figure out the ways to implement my business that maximize the return on my time investment.

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Dean, I'm happy for you. I'm glad that you are making some profit in what you are doing, and it is TOUGH making money when you shoot riders. Your are competing for their fuel, tire, repair, upgrade budget.

If you are getting anyone to buy prints, I'd be estatic!

Thanks Brian - I do sell some prints, but between Zenfolio/MPix's high costs and my desire to make the prints affordable for my customers, I make very little on selling prints. I don't have the time or desire to do my own fulfillment, so that has been a conscious decision to give up that potential avenue for profit.

I do have an Epson Stylus Photo 1400, which makes pretty nice 13x19s. I primarily bought it to make prints for myself, but I could use it to make some samples to show customers.


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Apr 10, 2011 21:58 |  #1814

anyone know where i could get some 9' white seamless paper here in the valley?
does tempe camera or photomark sell it?


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Apr 10, 2011 22:42 |  #1815

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