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Apr 12, 2011 06:45 |  #16

supernova74 wrote in post #12205480 (external link)
Question for you. You deliver 500-700. Do you edit all of those or just a % of them?

Yes.

And a direct quote from my website FAQ's consistent with my 50% keeper post earlier in the thread:

How many pictures will you take of our wedding?

It varies greatly, but I commonly shoot about 1,000 images from which I will present you with a more manageable collection, typically around 500.


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Apr 12, 2011 09:17 as a reply to  @ Peacefield's post |  #17

For weddings, I keep about 30%. So for a wedding where I may come home with 2000 photos between my wife and I, we would deliver around 600 finished images. Each of these is edited for basic color correction and exposure. About 35% of these become B&W, and another small percentage get special toning and retouching as I see fit.

Like others here, I am up front and tell brides the range of images they can expect to be delivered. It depends on hours of coverage and what all is going on during the day. If they ask about the keeper ratio, then I am glad to give them an explanation about test shots, duplicates, people blinking, etc. However I've not yet had a bride who has ever questioned the amount of images they receive.


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Apr 12, 2011 09:51 as a reply to  @ caught14's post |  #18

DingAnSich wrote in post #12204076 (external link)
so you are saying that if you shoot 100 candids during a wedding 80-90 of those are approved and given to the client?

Yes. It's a bit of a throwback from film shooting. Old habits die hard I guess. I've only been digital for 5 seasons now (since 2006 season), and shot 7 seasons of film weddings before that. Around 2002 there was more of a push for candids, with digital just starting to take off. Every shot had to be purposeful or you were literally throwing profits away! I don't miss film wedding shooting at all. blah!!

jamiewexler wrote in post #12203217 (external link)
Aren't any of you the least bit concerned that when brides google you, they might come across a forum post where you admit to giving them only 1/4 of the photos you take?

It doesn't bother me. Actually, during the initial consult, most clients ask how many pics I take in a day and how many I deliver. I tell them, "would you rather have all the best pics, or do you want to spend countless hours sorting through a billion photos only to narrow it down to the list I would have delivered to you anyways?"

supernova74 wrote in post #12205480 (external link)
Question for you. You deliver 500-700. Do you edit all of those or just a % of them?

Yes, every single photo gets individual attention in Lightroom. I don't batch process; it isn't a good method to deliver good exposure. Changing the angle just a bit can give you a different exposure value. Which is why I'm kinda slow in turnaround. When it comes to processing speed, I suck.


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Apr 18, 2011 15:55 |  #19

^ Just want to say Thanks Lloyd!!!


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Apr 18, 2011 16:53 |  #20

picturecrazy wrote in post #12206379 (external link)
Yes. It's a bit of a throwback from film shooting. Old habits die hard I guess. I've only been digital for 5 seasons now (since 2006 season), and shot 7 seasons of film weddings before that. Around 2002 there was more of a push for candids, with digital just starting to take off. Every shot had to be purposeful or you were literally throwing profits away! I don't miss film wedding shooting at all. blah!!

THAT'S AMAZING.. the majority of my shooting is candid and i can tell you from experience that although a shot may have purpose, the expression you catch has a duration and not every moment within that duration is a flattering one. do you give weird smiles and blinks to your clients? i try to cull those awkward expressions and probably always will but it wouldn't hurt to know that the client is more tolerant than i give them credit for.


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Apr 21, 2011 11:03 |  #21

DingAnSich wrote in post #12247758 (external link)
THAT'S AMAZING.. the majority of my shooting is candid and i can tell you from experience that although a shot may have purpose, the expression you catch has a duration and not every moment within that duration is a flattering one. do you give weird smiles and blinks to your clients? i try to cull those awkward expressions and probably always will but it wouldn't hurt to know that the client is more tolerant than i give them credit for.

Sometimes I deliver blinks, but never half-blinks; those are the WORST! They look like they're high on drugs. On digital, I'm pretty picky, but the keeper rate is still very high. I'll set up and get into position for a candid shot, and sometimes will stand there not moving a muscle for 10 minutes with the camera to my face, just waiting for the right expression to come, and bam! One shot, one keeper. Sometimes the subject moves and the shot is lost, so you might be waiting a few minutes for a shot but get none. But that's just how it goes. Patience is the key. I'd rather shoot 13 candids in one hour and keep 12 awesome ones, than shoot 70 and keep 25 mediocre candids.


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