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Rebel Challenge #57: Youth

 
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Apr 11, 2011 03:28 |  #16

My vote is for McNair. The puppy is just SO dang cute in that shot.




  
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Apr 11, 2011 08:49 |  #17

If I would look only at image quality, my vote would be for McNair.
If I would only care about the topic my vote would be either for kent or T3. Kent: I love the technical part of it but it is the lightning that does not trill me. T3: I love the framing and the subject but it seems to me that the two teens are Out Of Focus.
owen: nice idea but i don`t like the crop.
Chenster: I like it overall but the glass seem overexposed. (I guess that`s the term)
photomom: Lovely kid but a little bit to dark.
Last but not least edmylo: Love the face but not sure about the crop.


Darn.... I am thinking to much about the topic :))
Vote: McNair :) I am sure i am going to regret this but the puppy is lovely :)


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Apr 11, 2011 10:11 |  #18

I think for the topic I have to vote for Kent. I do love the puppy for image quality.

Big Apple - thanks, it was very hard to get the settings right on that shot. I took tons. The problem was that the swing set is in DEEP shade, with dappled sunlight. It was getting on toward evening so the sun was shining directly on the slide, yet the rest was dark shade. Didn't want to overblow the sunlight... Any suggestions from anyone would be appreciated. I can try it again this evening. I'd prefer not to use flash since it would make it look to flat, I believe. I want it to be realistic, to look exactly like it does on the swingset.


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Apr 11, 2011 14:00 |  #19

photomom... do you have a cord for the flash or one of those wireless things? I would point the flash upwards and use a piece of cardboard to direct it. But it requires a lot of juggling.


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Apr 11, 2011 15:51 |  #20

no cord or wireless...


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Apr 11, 2011 17:48 |  #21

photomom2one wrote in post #12199762 (external link)
I think for the topic I have to vote for Kent. I do love the puppy for image quality.

Big Apple - thanks, it was very hard to get the settings right on that shot. I took tons. The problem was that the swing set is in DEEP shade, with dappled sunlight. It was getting on toward evening so the sun was shining directly on the slide, yet the rest was dark shade. Didn't want to overblow the sunlight... Any suggestions from anyone would be appreciated. I can try it again this evening. I'd prefer not to use flash since it would make it look to flat, I believe. I want it to be realistic, to look exactly like it does on the swingset.

My best advice is to not shoot it in direct sunlight. I would have built up some shadow instead. Shadow, on the subject on a sunny day gives a much better dynamic range. It is easier to get it right when everything is shadow. Direct sunlight, means harsh shadows and small blown out parts, and the risk that the skin colours is ruined. To get a good light on skin, with help of more light and reflexion is much much more difficult, than to go the opposite way... take away the direct sunlight. With a difuser on the flash, the flash would not have been giving a harsh light. Here is a portrait in the shadow, with flash/difuser pointing straight upwards just to fill up the remaining shadows in her eyes.

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Skin colour is the most difficult thing to get right. On my picture, the dynamic range was also tricky, and if the girls wasn't in a hurry I could have made the picture in the shadows outside of the building instead. That would have made it much easier. But they where in an hurry...

The biggest problem here was not the dynamic range, it was that there was different light sources with different light values. Low energy lamps, and sun light. The small energy lamps was shining on small areas, and mostly only painting things yellow and not bringing much light. The white balance is right on the paper and part of the clothes of the girl on the left. But for the face of her and the girls it is not. The skin colour is suffering from to much contrast, wich give stronger colours. But if you go to the last girl on the right, her skin colour is just perfect. The third girl from right is also having the right skin colour. This could have all been solved If I did not accidently had the camera on automatic, instead of AV. Wich means Jpeg instead of RAW. Then I could have adjusted the white balance for each light area, made 6 different pictures out of it, and painted the right colour on each of them. But that would have been overkill, for a picture intended for facebook...

t3 get the vote from me. That picture is saying everything about being a youth... and fulfilling the dream of a date!!!

The others would have been winners if the theme was "children" or "pet".

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Apr 11, 2011 22:25 |  #22

I agree the focus on mine and could have been a bit crisper. Guess I shouldn't have shot it at 300mm.  :o

Have to vote for McNair, even though I am generally anti-cute.


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Apr 12, 2011 10:01 |  #23

Kent - diffuser would have been the answer. One of these days I"ll get one. I've tried using homemade things but nothing seems to work. IT either won't stay on, or it's too opaque. When indoors I bounce off ceiling, walls, or my favorite - a window. Outside there's nothing to bounce off! And it's not like I have an assistant to hold a reflector, LOL!

T3 - I would have liked to have seen more of the faces. All I could see was a back.


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Apr 13, 2011 09:28 |  #24

photomom2one wrote in post #12206447 (external link)
Kent - diffuser would have been the answer. One of these days I"ll get one. I've tried using homemade things but nothing seems to work. IT either won't stay on, or it's too opaque. When indoors I bounce off ceiling, walls, or my favorite - a window. Outside there's nothing to bounce off! And it's not like I have an assistant to hold a reflector, LOL!

T3 - I would have liked to have seen more of the faces. All I could see was a back.

I use this (external link)... That is perfect. Well, I had to use a tape to make it stuck to the camera. But I never take the difuser off anyway.

And as I tried to say... take the portrait shot in the shadows on sunny days. That gives a perfect balanced light, and with the bright sky above, the small soft shadows left ends up where shadows should be... under the person.


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Apr 13, 2011 15:26 |  #25

Kent - I had gotten this one a couple of weeks ago. It was further out from the trees and I think a little later in the day.

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would that diffuser work on a 430EX?

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Apr 14, 2011 13:33 |  #26

photomom2one wrote in post #12215651 (external link)
Kent - I had gotten this one a couple of weeks ago. It was further out from the trees and I think a little later in the day.
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would that diffuser work on a 430EX?


I don't know. But one of these (external link) will.

There is not that much difference between them. They all give a more soft light. Pick one that you think look nice, and if it is not hanging good on the flash, well use tape.

That is anyhow a great portrait!!! And that is excatly how soft the shadows is when you take a portrait in the shadow (or late on the day).


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Apr 15, 2011 09:21 |  #27

thanks Kent! I really like that shot. I had looked at the soft box diffuser some time back. I really hadn't done much with photography the past few months. I'm starting to get back to hit with better weather.


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Apr 17, 2011 09:54 |  #28

Great shots everyone! Sorry I didn't get in, but I wouldn't have had anything appropriate anyway( tough to beat puppies and kids - and I don't have either at my house LOL).

Three cheers for McNair!

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Apr 17, 2011 12:20 |  #29

I know the challenge is way outta date, but I caught this candid at a meet for a car club I belong to. Thought I'd share.

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Apr 19, 2011 10:59 |  #30

New topic? Anyone?


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