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Apr 20, 2011 16:47 |  #1

Anyone have any experience with the Coco/Opteka/Cowboy Studio ring flash adapter? They all look like basically the same thing only rebranded and have the same price. Also looking at the Orbis. I don't plan on using the hell out of it or anything, but the Orbis is about $200. Much more than the others. Is the Orbis really that much better? Are the others that much worse?


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Apr 20, 2011 16:52 |  #2

The Coco and Rayflash are the same product I am pretty sure, one is just cheaper. I am not sure, but I thought the Opteka and Cowboy are smaller?


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Apr 20, 2011 17:28 as a reply to  @ themadman's post |  #3

In terms of the overpriced plastic ring flash adapters that mount to the flash head of your Speedlight, I believe the Orbis to the best best. There are knockoff's and I'm sure some of them work as well but in many case they don't.

I've used the Ray Flash and the Orbis and the Ray Flash and its knockoff's don't produce the same kind of effect and I deem them better for fill or macro with even lighting. As a main light source I really can't say anything good about it.

The Orbis, on the other hand, has a very pleasing look and while there is still a small slice of the ring that has a much lower output and doesn't really close the ring, the catch light and the light more closely resembles that of a true ring flash than some of the others.

Unfortunately these devices are expensive and in the case of the Orbis, it's downright inconvenient to hold and something of a pain to mount to a light stand unless you're in a fixed position.

It's very hard to justify these adapters. The limitations are great and the usefulness is not that great.


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Apr 20, 2011 20:26 |  #4

Oh wow. I really didn't know they could be such a hassle. They have to be hand held?? Learn something new everyday!


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Apr 20, 2011 20:32 as a reply to  @ BrickR's post |  #5

If you check out the Orbis site you'll see how it works. You place the Orbis over the flash head and then there are several ways to use it.

You either hand hold the flash/Orbis with your left hand and the camera in the right, get the arm that Enlight makes, which does the job but is a monster and quite ridiculous, in my opinion, or you mount your flash to a light stand (preferably with wheels). In the studio, that works great. You just wheel the stand around and then hold the camera correctly as you poke the lens through the Orbis to shoot.

When you really get down to it, none of those options is a great solution.


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Apr 20, 2011 22:06 |  #6

^No they are not. I'm really not interested in being restricted by the portability of my equipment. If that's the case, a DIY ring light would be a better choice for my use. Might have to spend the money burning a hole in my pocket on a different modifier this month... ;)


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Apr 21, 2011 02:29 |  #7

TMR Design wrote in post #12262979 (external link)
If you check out the Orbis site you'll see how it works. You place the Orbis over the flash head and then there are several ways to use it.

You either hand hold the flash/Orbis with your left hand and the camera in the right, get the arm that Enlight makes, which does the job but is a monster and quite ridiculous, in my opinion, or you mount your flash to a light stand (preferably with wheels). In the studio, that works great. You just wheel the stand around and then hold the camera correctly as you poke the lens through the Orbis to shoot.

When you really get down to it, none of those options is a great solution.

Whats wrong with the bracket arm ?

When i was looking for ring flashes, the orbis was the only speedlite related i was considering but it definitely had to include the bracket. It should be lighter to handhold then say a ABR800.


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Apr 21, 2011 08:16 as a reply to  @ Csae's post |  #8

Hi Case,

It's not that anything is actually wrong with it but from the ergonomic and practical standpoint, the size and shape make it awkward to work with and impossible to put down on a flat surface.

I realize that a true ring flash, when mounted to a camera, can be bulky but not in the same way as the Orbis arm.

That's just my opinion, of course.


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Apr 21, 2011 23:41 |  #9

I have the Orbis ring flash and the arm attachment. Like Rob said, it is really bulky and does get in the way of shooting. I'm considering returning them.


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Apr 22, 2011 07:20 |  #10

You can make a DIY ring flash on the cheap if you have some tools.

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Apr 22, 2011 08:49 as a reply to  @ dave_p's post |  #11

There are tons of DIY ring flashes out there. Sadly a lot of them suck. Just because you mount a mixing bowl or a wok to a flash doesn't immediately make it a good ring flash.


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Apr 22, 2011 10:11 |  #12

TMR Design wrote in post #12271478 (external link)
There are tons of DIY ring flashes out there. Sadly a lot of them suck. Just because you mount a mixing bowl or a wok to a flash doesn't immediately make it a good ring flash.

Yes, and some don't. =)




  
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Apr 22, 2011 10:25 as a reply to  @ dave_p's post |  #13

Well, that remains to be seen.

I've noticed that most often when I see videos and tutorials for building DIY ring flashes, the results are very disappointing and sample images are not that good.

It's one thing to figure out how to put the components together to get a flash to fire into a bowl, and it's another to do it in such a way that you actually produce pleasing light and light that replicates that of a real ring flash.

If the results were really amazing I'd be more more enthusiastic about these things.


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Apr 23, 2011 19:36 |  #14
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I looked at an Orbis today.

That's gotta' be the most inconveniently designed piece of plastic I've ever encountered...


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I looked at an Orbis today.

That's gotta' be the most inconveniently designed piece of plastic I've ever encountered...

LOL, yup.


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