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Apr 22, 2011 08:21 |  #7336

here's one with the 24-70 L lens that I have a question about...

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I think it looks good at this size, but when I blow it up to 50% (just to check it in more detail), the faces are a bit soft. is that normal because of the low light and no flash?



  
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Apr 22, 2011 08:23 |  #7337

swetsastonic wrote in post #12271335 (external link)
here's one with the 24-70 L lens that I have a question about...

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I think it looks good at this size, but when I blow it up to 50% (just to check it in more detail), the faces are a bit soft. is that normal because of the low light and no flash?

Yeah, low light and no flash would do it.;):D


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Apr 22, 2011 08:24 |  #7338

swetsastonic wrote in post #12271335 (external link)
here's one with the 24-70 L lens that I have a question about...

I think it looks good at this size, but when I blow it up to 50% (just to check it in more detail), the faces are a bit soft. is that normal because of the low light and no flash?


your aperture is f/2.8 so consider using f/8 to get more than one face in focus ~


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Apr 22, 2011 08:26 |  #7339

Immaculens wrote in post #12271344 (external link)

your aperture is f/2.8 so consider using f/8 to get more than one face in focus ~

very good point...I was just trying to get as much light in as possible with the 2.8, but stupidly wasn't considering the dof. thank you.




  
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Apr 22, 2011 08:30 |  #7340

by the way, the guy on the left is the war photographer greg marinovich. I recommend checking out "the bang bang club," the film about him and his fellow photojournalists. really interesting.




  
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Apr 22, 2011 08:30 |  #7341

I highly doubt you would get a usuable image in-doors at F8 with no flash. I'd rather move more perpendicular to the people and open up and try to get them all in the depth of field. A lot of times noise from shooting at higher ISO's will soften up an image somewhat. They still print very well though from my experience, unless your cropping of course.

Flashing on an angle also brings problems with exposure as well. Closest to the camera can easily be at least 1-2 stops brighter than the farthest.


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Apr 22, 2011 08:47 |  #7342

Hardcore wrote in post #12271282 (external link)
You can easily remove your focus screen in the 60d. The dust/hair may simply be blown off the focus screen once removed.

I'll give that a try, but am paranoid of getting dust onto the sensor in the process. :(

Would using a light brush hurt anything?

Sending the camera in might be something I do near the end of my warranty. Hopefully that will be the same time the 5d3 is available and I can possibly sell the 60D or turn it into a time lapse machine.

I'm really getting the FF upgrade itch here and really don't wish to go backwards with a lot of my 60D features by getting a 5d2. :lol::lol: Swivel screen being one of the main reasons I went crop. :cool:


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Apr 22, 2011 08:54 |  #7343

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Anyone else have dust in their viewfinder?

My 60D started out with none and it seems every time I take it bouncing around in my backpack, it knocks dust into the viewfinder!

The inside of my camera is pristine! Not a spec of dust to be seen anywhere when I open it up. Not even a microbe on my sensor, mirror, or anything.

What gives Canon? It's 2011 and you can't make sure it stays clean during assembly? For shame!

This is the only thing that severely disappoints me about the 60D I got. Seems viewfinders have taken a few steps back since the film days. Never had this happen once with my Pentax K1000 and Canon Elan 2e. Those suckers got mega dirty inside from lens changing outdoors all the time, but never got big "pubic hairs" in my field of view...

Where should I start looking for these guys? I really don't wish to blast air into there and dirty up my sensor.


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Clean during assembly? What are you talking about? That dust doesn't come in from assembly, it comes in from the outside. That part of the camera isn't hermetically sealed or anything, every time you move a variable-length zoom lens it "breaths" and sucks in air and blows air out, some of which is rammed through the camera body and blows dust around, with the viewfinder being one of the most common exits as it is easily removable and not air tight.

Canon warns in several places in the manual to not touch or brush the viewfinder - I think the screen and coatings are very fragile. As others have mentioned it is not hard to remove that part of the camera and lightly clean it off - if you have the screen off and use a blower I don't see how it would blow more dust around inside of the camera.


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Apr 22, 2011 08:57 |  #7344

swetsastonic wrote in post #12271380 (external link)
by the way, the guy on the left is the war photographer greg marinovich. I recommend checking out "the bang bang club," the film about him and his fellow photojournalists. really interesting.

He shoots the right brand of camera, so he must be good!


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Apr 22, 2011 09:04 |  #7345

Keyan wrote in post #12271509 (external link)
Clean during assembly? What are you talking about? That dust doesn't come in from assembly, it comes in from the outside. That part of the camera isn't hermetically sealed or anything, every time you move a variable-length zoom lens it "breaths" and sucks in air and blows air out, some of which is rammed through the camera body and blows dust around, with the viewfinder being one of the most common exits as it is easily removable and not air tight.

Canon warns in several places in the manual to not touch or brush the viewfinder - I think the screen and coatings are very fragile. As others have mentioned it is not hard to remove that part of the camera and lightly clean it off - if you have the screen off and use a blower I don't see how it would blow more dust around inside of the camera.

OK, thanks for the info and corrections. :lol:

While not new to photography, I am very new to digital these days. Never had to worry about dust on my film like I do on the sensor. Blast the sucker with air and the next frame of film would be squeaky clean. :)


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Apr 22, 2011 09:05 |  #7346

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I'll give that a try, but am paranoid of getting dust onto the sensor in the process. :(

Would using a light brush hurt anything?

Sending the camera in might be something I do near the end of my warranty. Hopefully that will be the same time the 5d3 is available and I can possibly sell the 60D or turn it into a time lapse machine.

I'm really getting the FF upgrade itch here and really don't wish to go backwards with a lot of my 60D features by getting a 5d2. :lol::lol: Swivel screen being one of the main reasons I went crop. :cool:

Do like me, get a 5D classic, best of both world :)


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Apr 22, 2011 09:19 |  #7347

Or keep the 60d and get a 5dmkII refurb.


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Apr 22, 2011 09:32 |  #7348
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Canon_Lover wrote in post #12271559 (external link)
While not new to photography, I am very new to digital these days. Never had to worry about dust on my film like I do on the sensor. Blast the sucker with air and the next frame of film would be squeaky clean. :)

I also read don't use pressurized air in the dslr camera then you be sorry.:rolleyes:

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Apr 22, 2011 09:48 |  #7349

Rivest wrote in post #12271566 (external link)
Do like me, get a 5D classic, best of both world :)

It might be wise for the work I plan on doing to keep the 60D for a dedicated telephoto setup and get a 5D for wider shots.

I really hate changing lenses out in the dusty outdoors with digital cameras, and this would solve that problem.

The upcoming 200-400 2.8 1.4x with the built in converter is totally going to hurt people like myself in the bank account area. :eek::eek: Canon sees a clear need for a sealed lens that covers a lot of range without being taken off the body.


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Apr 22, 2011 09:52 |  #7350

CanonEOS wrote in post #12271309 (external link)
So you cheated ok;)

Haha, I suppose? It's an HDR technique. I shot three pictures at three exposures in manual mode, you have to at least give me that much?


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