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Apr 24, 2011 13:17 |  #16

13mm, looks like a spy cam, lol

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Apr 24, 2011 13:19 |  #17

genjurok wrote in post #12283802 (external link)
13mm, looks like a spy cam, lol

I personally wouldn't care too much about the vignetting from 11-15mm. I'd even shoot at 11mm--since you could just crop-out as necessary in PP anyhow. Better to have more than less I say.


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Apr 24, 2011 13:21 |  #18

MOkoFOko wrote in post #12283728 (external link)
All things considered, I think the Tokina 11-16 is the best choice if you want a cheap and fast prime/zoom for both FF and crop use.


Absolutely spot on! bw!

That's exactly how I use the tokina 11-16 on my 5D and 60D
on 5D, it's a 16mm f/2.8 prime
It serves dual purposes for me and it does the job wonderfully! :-)
For this reason, I don't see myself parting away with it anytime soon. It will be in my gear list for a long time.


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Apr 24, 2011 13:37 |  #19

MOkoFOko wrote in post #12283794 (external link)
16-35L (any incarnation) is more than 2x as expensive as the Tok 11-16--and on a crop, it's no longer an ultra-wide.

Agree Moko


The Tok 10-17 is a bloody fisheye. What more do you need elaboration on ? :D

This is what I had no experience with,,,,,Once again thanks Moko

Thanks genjurok for posting the differences.


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Apr 24, 2011 13:40 |  #20

genjurok wrote in post #12283820 (external link)
Absolutely spot on! bw!

That's exactly how I use the tokina 11-16 on my 5D and 60D
on 5D, it's a 16mm f/2.8 prime
It serves dual purposes for me and it does the job wonderfully! :-)
For this reason, I don't see myself parting away with it anytime soon. It will be in my gear list for a long time.

Do you happen to have a shot at 11mm on the 5d? I can't find any sample shots to upload at the moment. You should see the funky stuff I was getting at 10.5mm on my modified Canon 10-22mm on a 1d body (1.3x)


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Apr 24, 2011 13:46 |  #21

Bianchi wrote in post #12283775 (external link)
looks like MS went this route
Tokina 10-17 f/3.5-4.5
Canon 16-35 f/2.8L USM


Care to elaborate Michael


I had all 3 lenses at the same time. I didn't use the 11-16 often. The 10-17 is fisheye to ultrawide, so I decided to let go of the 11-16. Had nothing to do with the quality, just the practicality.


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Apr 24, 2011 13:56 as a reply to  @ Michael Schoelen's post |  #22

MOkoFOko wrote in post #12283809 (external link)
I personally wouldn't care too much about the vignetting from 11-15mm. I'd even shoot at 11mm--since you could just crop-out as necessary in PP anyhow. Better to have more than less I say.

After looking at genjork's 13 mm, I was thinking about the same thing Moko regarding croping it.... but I hadn't even read what you wrote. We think alike

Another question fellas, thoughts on the 100 400 vs the Sigma 100 500


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Apr 24, 2011 14:29 |  #23

Bianchi wrote in post #12283993 (external link)
After looking at genjork's 13 mm, I was thinking about the same thing Moko regarding croping it.... but I hadn't even read what you wrote. We think alike

Another question fellas, thoughts on the 100 400 vs the Sigma 100 500

There is no Sigma 100-500. In terms of the long-end, there is a 170-500, 50-500, 50-500 OS, and a 150-500 OS. I've owned the 170-500, and 150-500 OS. I've also tested the 50-500 OS. The 50-500 OS is in the price range of the 100-400. It's not as sharp, but the 4-stop OS easily beats the Canons ancient 2-stop IS motor. The 150-500 is much cheaper than the 100-400, and isn't as sharp as the 50-500 OS, but it features the same 4-stop OS. I jumped from the 100-400 --> 150-500 OS (at least until I settled on the 70200II with 2x TC).

The Sig 170-500 isn't worth comparing. It is junk.


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Apr 24, 2011 14:53 |  #24

MOkoFOko wrote in post #12283920 (external link)
Do you happen to have a shot at 11mm on the 5d? I can't find any sample shots to upload at the moment. You should see the funky stuff I was getting at 10.5mm on my modified Canon 10-22mm on a 1d body (1.3x)

hmmm, I'm not sure if I tried 11mm on 5D. I think 13mm is the widest I've done.

I'm looking forward to seeing the 10.5mm shot of yours! :D


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Apr 24, 2011 14:55 |  #25

MOkoFOko wrote in post #12284096 (external link)
There is no Sigma 100-500. In terms of the long-end, there is a 170-500, 50-500, 50-500 OS, and a 150-500 OS. I've owned the 170-500, and 150-500 OS. I've also tested the 50-500 OS. The 50-500 OS is in the price range of the 100-400. It's not as sharp, but the 4-stop OS easily beats the Canons ancient 2-stop IS motor. The 150-500 is much cheaper than the 100-400, and isn't as sharp as the 50-500 OS, but it features the same 4-stop OS. I jumped from the 100-400 --> 150-500 OS (at least until I settled on the 70200II with 2x TC).

The Sig 170-500 isn't worth comparing. It is junk.

Sigma has so many different lense models for that range, almost like GM! :D


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Apr 24, 2011 15:07 |  #26

genjurok wrote in post #12284195 (external link)
hmmm, I'm not sure if I tried 11mm on 5D. I think 13mm is the widest I've done.

I'm looking forward to seeing the 10.5mm shot of yours! :D

If I can even find the darn thing. Several hundred gigabytes of photos and videos makes it difficult for me to find anything :D It was a funky shot though. I clearly remember the side borders being cut, with the top and bottom with slanted cuts--basically like an overall polygon shape.


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Apr 24, 2011 15:29 as a reply to  @ MOkoFOko's post |  #27

i have tried to use it on my 35mm film and the vignette virtually disappears from 15.5
the only drawback of this lens - very sensitive to flare


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Apr 24, 2011 16:07 |  #28

MOkoFOko wrote in post #12284096 (external link)
There is no Sigma 100-500. In terms of the long-end, there is a 170-500, 50-500, 50-500 OS, and a 150-500 OS. I've owned the 170-500, and 150-500 OS. I've also tested the 50-500 OS. The 50-500 OS is in the price range of the 100-400. It's not as sharp, but the 4-stop OS easily beats the Canons ancient 2-stop IS motor. The 150-500 is much cheaper than the 100-400, and isn't as sharp as the 50-500 OS, but it features the same 4-stop OS. I jumped from the 100-400 --> 150-500 OS (at least until I settled on the 70200II with 2x TC).

The Sig 170-500 isn't worth comparing. It is junk.

Thanks again Moko, meant to write 150 / 500

I wish Canon would come out with there new version of the 100/400.With the tragedy in Japan, that may be awhile now.

Hows that 70 200II with 2x TC working out for you . Any sample pictures.

My only negative is the weight factor especially on hikes in the Mts. One of the reasons why I have the 70 200 4 is. Other than that, I know the 70 200 ii is stellar.


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Apr 24, 2011 16:16 |  #29

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Thanks again Moko, meant to write 150 / 500

I wish Canon would come out with there new version of the 100/400.With the tragedy in Japan, that may be awhile now.

Hows that 70 200II with 2x TC working out for you . Any sample pictures.

My only negative is the weight factor especially on hikes in the Mts. One of the reasons why I have the 70 200 4 is. Other than that, I know the 70 200 ii is stellar.

The 70-200 f4 IS and 70-200 II are just about as sharp wide-open (recently compared copies of each). With both stopped down to f/4 however, the II obviously wins handily. The real value with the II is being able to get that 2x on there and still AF outside of a 1d/1ds. 140-400 is a lot more impressive vs 98-280.

Here's a shot @400mm with the 70200II with 2x mkII TC. No PP, beyond cropping to 100%. The combination literally blew away my Bigmos (sig 150-500 os), which is why I sold it. I originally planned to keep both.

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There were never any hard-rumors regarding the 100-400 II. It would seem to be far off in the future. Of ALL the current in-production lens models, the 100-400 is the one that needs to be updated the most--badly. Would it really be SO hard for them to tweak the design to incorporate the newer IS motors and slap a "II" on there?

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Apr 24, 2011 17:05 as a reply to  @ MOkoFOko's post |  #30

"There were never any hard-rumors regarding the 100-400 II. It would seem to be far off in the future. Of ALL the current in-production lens models, the 100-400 is the one that needs to be updated the most--badly. Would it really be SO hard for them to tweak the design to incorporate the newer IS motors and slap a "II" on there?"

70 200 2.8 L IS II Weight:3.5 lb (with tripod collar ii

70 200 F4 L IS Weight:1.6 lb

100 400 4.5 ā€¯Weight:3 lb (with tripod collar)

Lenses always = compromises

If they came out with a new version 100 400 as you stated above, why would any one buy that over the 70 200 2.8 L IS II when they weight is about the same and what you get with the 2x mkII TC on it

Only advantage I see is a 1/4 or 2 mkII TC on the 100 400 and it would turn it into a super tele if it gives equal quality .

Heres where the compromise comes in weight vs IQ


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