Ron, I stay on the outskirts of the city and the Milky Way as such is mostly invisible (Milky part). It is possible to see where it is supposed to be, because the major constallations are visible, example Crux. Clouds do light up nicely, lit up by the city lights.
After a long spell of rain the visibility at night is good, then we get close to class 5, but class 6 is the best we can see. Many stars visible. but the nice distintive milky line is still not visible.
The shot I took had a lot of stars visible using the naked eye. The zenith was also black. This is why I travel out to the country, because we miss the stars.