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Editing with Layers in Lightroom: onOne Software's "Perfect Layers"

 
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Apr 30, 2011 15:46 |  #31

Friedl's argument from the above post is true enough:

From a technological standpoint, this was quite a ho-hum development. Basically, he's created a super-lite version of Photoshop that, like any other application, can be called from Lightroom to work on a copy of a photo. Its benefit seems to be a very simple user interface and it will certainly appeal to non-technical photographers that want more pixel-editing functionality than Lightroom provides, but it's of no interest if you already use Photoshop, Photoshop Elements, Paint Shop Pro, Gimp, or any of the other myriad of pixel-editing applications out there.

Although it's a stretch that there are a "myriad" of apps that support layers.

To be sure, the Perfect Layers app is just a plug-in that has a layers function but without the functionality of Photoshop, Elements, etc -- in that sense if you have one of those apps and want layers then you get more by using them.

And, his point about "destructive" editing is certainly true in the sense that like all plug-ins it creates a psd/tiff that you are then editing and when you save the file, well, you save the edited file although the layers are intact. In my little bit of testing I didn't try opening a file in Photoshop to see how you might be able to work with them, though, and I also didn't save and re-open a file in Perfect Layers to see if you could revisit and adjust those layers.

So, all that being said, will this be useful? Like was said, if you have an editing app that supports layers, the only thing you might like about it is that it's "small" -- the interface is like a mini-layers palette without all the overhead of a full-bore editing app and that could be appealing. On the downside is the limited functionality, meaning that if you really need to work over something you'll still need to resort to PS or whatever.

As to whether this will in any way infringe on the PS market, well, I'd say nah. Lightroom itself has certainly become more of a go-to app for many of us, but we still have either PS or another app on hand.


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May 01, 2011 14:37 |  #32

It costs more then Elements. I'd go for Elements.
Since I already own PSCS4, I think I'll go with Jeffreys version: http://regex.info/blog​/lightroom-goodies/layers (external link)

http://www.johanfoto.c​om …ct-layers-not-so-perfect/ (external link)

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May 01, 2011 16:46 |  #33

René, I've never spent time on that blog -- is RC a regular, part of the Kelby team, or what?


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May 01, 2011 20:26 |  #34

I bet this is in LR4 anyway, I installed it but its nothing special, I agree that PS elements is probably a better choice


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May 01, 2011 21:14 |  #35

tekkie wrote in post #12329575 (external link)
I bet this is in LR4 anyway, I installed it but its nothing special, I agree that PS elements is probably a better choice

True, it's a "mini" app. It can't compete with Elements/Photoshop/Gim​p/etc. In that sense, it's like other LR plugins like Enfuse for HDR, Noise Ninja, Mogrify, etc. -- nothing you can't do with more features/power in Photoshop/Elements. Oh well.

Kelby doesn't disagree with that -- in the blog linked to above, the one comment he made during the "discussion" was that yes, for those that have Elements/Photoshop in their workflow, that's the way to go, but for those who don't and don't plan to, well this is an interesting little tool.


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May 01, 2011 21:50 |  #36

I am hoping lightroom 4 has an integrated feature like this but I am not holding my breath. I have CS5 so I am not worried.



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May 02, 2011 05:47 |  #37

tonylong wrote in post #12328527 (external link)
is RC a regular, part of the Kelby team, or what?

RC teaches at Kelbytraining AFAIK.


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