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Am I the only one that does not like Bokeh?

 
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May 10, 2011 12:53 |  #196

At f11, sure?

What you keep showing is that you want landscapes to show almost everything in focus. I agree, that is one of the primary types of photographic subject material where deeper focal planes are desirable.

However there are MANY other types of shots you don't want everything in focus. I cannot even tell what you are asking or arguing at this point. ???


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May 10, 2011 12:55 as a reply to  @ post 12383493 |  #197

& to show the other end of the scale :rolleyes: :lol:

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IMO it all boils down to knowing when & where to use a shallow DOF - of course we all have differing opinions there so as long as the person behind the camera is happy with what they shoot the rest is [Should be] history ;)

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May 10, 2011 13:01 |  #198

Let me ask you this

Will this picture look better if you took it say at f22?


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May 10, 2011 13:07 |  #199

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I wonder if we can use bokeh as a verb :) like in "damn dude you bokehed the crap out of that shot...awesome!"

Or DOF...you dof'ed the scene just right. Nice! :D

Don't!

Although the dof'ed might take hold...


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May 10, 2011 13:23 |  #200
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@CanonEOS..... Now being serious, If you want everything in focus like you have stated before.. Even using F14 (like in your portrait) it doesn't bring everything in focus, closing the aperture doesnt lead you to everything in focus. You must learn what is called hyperfocal distance and Depth of Field.

Ok lets start again I have been learning about the Depth of Field on my 18-135 lens that I most use, I read if I set the mode to AV and I want a sharp foreground and background I need a high aperture number from f/11 or higher say f/22, but if I need a bokeh background a lower aperture number f/5.6 is needed.

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Let me ask you this

Will this picture look better if you took it say at f22?

You tell me I am still learning about the aperturs I just took that picture to test out my 50mm lens and at the time I didn't have a lens hood for it, but now I do, so this weekend I will go out to take more pictures to see what is the differents with a lens hood can make on this lens and my 55-250mm


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May 10, 2011 13:33 |  #201

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Ok lets start again I have been learning about the Depth of Field on my 18-135 lens that I most use, I read if I set the mode to AV and I want a sharp foreground and background I need a high aperture number from f/11 or higher say f/22, but if I need a bokeh background a lower aperture number f/5.6 is needed.

You tell me I am still learning about the aperturs I just took that picture to test out my lens and at the time I didn't have a lens hood for the 50mm but now I do, so this week I will see what is the differents with a lens can make.

It is not just the aperture that controls your depth of field, you have a couple of factors you must control as well. The bokeh (quality of out of focus elements) depends on the lens individually, two different model lenses shooting at 300mm f5.6 will yield different bokeh, but the same DOF if shot from the same distance on the same camera.


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May 10, 2011 13:37 |  #202

CanonEOS wrote in post #12383345 (external link)
Sorry what do you mean the first one I wrote! anyway so do you think I need more sharpness in the girl eyes on the picture? it was taken with a 50mm f/1.8

Are you shure that it was the 50mm f/1.8? Because the exif datas say it was 52mm.


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May 10, 2011 13:40 |  #203
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Ok what's the differents with Depth of Field and depth of focus? because I have only learn about the Depth of Field and apertures

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It is not just the aperture that controls your depth of focus, you have a couple of factors you must control as well. The bokeh (quality of out of focus elements) depends on the lens individually, two different model lenses shooting at 300mm f5.6 will yield different bokeh, but the same DOF if shot from the same distance on the same camera.


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May 10, 2011 13:43 |  #204

Here is a good link about DOF

Online Depth of Field Calculator (external link)

Here you can play with the sensor size, the focal length, the aperture and the distance and then you can see what effect it has on the dof.


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May 10, 2011 13:47 |  #205
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twixraider wrote in post #12383843 (external link)
Are you shure that it was the 50mm f/1.8? Because the exif datas say it was 52mm.

Sorry I have just look on my (Digital Photo Professional software) it was the 18-135mm at a aperture f/14. I made a mistake

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May 10, 2011 13:56 |  #206

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Ok what's the differents with Depth of Field and depth of focus? because I have only learn about the Depth of Field and apertures

I changed my post above, the older term is depth of focus, we now call it depth of field. :)


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TeamSpeed wrote in post #12383992 (external link)
I changed my post above, the older term is depth of focus, we now call it depth of field. :)

The most pictures I take are with AV mode for the depth of field but should I use (M) or (AV)?, this weekend I will try out my lenses with the lens hoods on, to see the differents it makes in the depth of field.


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May 10, 2011 14:19 |  #208

CanonEOS wrote in post #12384075 (external link)
this weekend I will try out my lenses with the lens hoods on, to see the differents it makes in the depth of field.

While a lens hood is a good thing to use, it will do absolutely nothing to the depth of field in an image.

A lens hood will block stray light that is not sourced in the scene seen by the camera and it will help to protect the lens from the photographer's fingers as well as the daily bumps the front of a lens seems to get.


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May 10, 2011 14:25 |  #209

CanonEOS wrote in post #12383729 (external link)
Ok lets start again I have been learning about the Depth of Field on my 18-135 lens that I most use, I read if I set the mode to AV and I want a sharp foreground and background I need a high aperture number from f/11 or higher say f/22, but if I need a bokeh background a lower aperture number f/5.6 is needed.

You tell me I am still learning about the aperturs I just took that picture to test out my 50mm lens and at the time I didn't have a lens hood for it, but now I do, so this weekend I will go out to take more pictures to see what is the differents with a lens hood can make on this lens and my 55-250mm

You gotta be kidding right? All the guff you have been talking and you think a lens hood will improve depth of field?

ETA: Ahhhhh.... You edited your post.


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May 10, 2011 14:36 |  #210

CanonEOS wrote in post #12384075 (external link)
The most pictures I take are with AV mode for the depth of field but should I use (M) or (AV)?, this weekend I will try out my lenses with the lens hoods on, to see the differents it makes in the depth of field.

Shoot in AV Mode, so the shutterspeed will be automatily adjusted. The hood has now effect. Only the sensor size, the focal lengh, the aperture and the distance to your object will have effect to your DOF

I dont know if you noticed the button on the right side of your lens mount. This is to control the dof.


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