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May 10, 2011 15:15 |  #106

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What do you mean not real pictures, what is wrong with using the "live view" LCD then the viewfinder? none that I can think of most of my photos are shot in "Live view" without a problem, only sometimes I get a problem and that is with the sun

you really got some problem with sarcasm?


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May 10, 2011 15:23 |  #107

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CF cards are not going away and will always be better than SD cards. SD cards have a 9 pin interface and only allows for a 4-bit data transfer bus. The 50 pin CF card has a 16-bit data transfer bus. CF cards are considered more reliable than SD cards. There's a reason why both Nikon and Canon use CF cards in their high end pro models.


I dont think so. I think it has something to do with haptic and feelings.
I belive that SD Cards are more reliable then CF Card's. As you wright the CF cards have 50 pins and so the are more vulnerable by wrong handling.


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May 10, 2011 16:11 |  #108

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I dont think so. I think it has something to do with haptic and feelings.
I belive that SD Cards are more reliable then CF Card's. As you wright the CF cards have 50 pins and so the are more vulnerable by wrong handling.

I've been using CF cards from as far back as I can remember, and I have to say in all those years I have not had one CF Card or CF Connector related failure. I can remember digital cameras having RS-232C interfaces (Kodak DC260), so that's how far back I go and then some.

I still shake my head in wonder about how people are damaging them.

The only thought I have is they may be using off brand CF cards that are poorly made causing damage.

I have looked at CF cards from several manufacturers over the years and some of the off brand ones look scary.

Other than poorly constructed CF cards it would have to be User Error.




  
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May 10, 2011 16:16 |  #109

twixraider wrote in post #12384539 (external link)
I dont think so. I think it has something to do with haptic and feelings.
I belive that SD Cards are more reliable then CF Card's. As you wright the CF cards have 50 pins and so the are more vulnerable by wrong handling.

Don't worry about the pins as their in the camera and the female end is on the card so no worries about damaging them. I've washed a CF card and put it through the dryer with no problems. :lol:




  
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May 10, 2011 16:20 |  #110

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Don't worry about the pins as their in the camera and the female end is on the card so no worries about damaging them. I've washed a CF card and put it through the dryer with no problems. :lol:

He's probably referring to them getting bent inside the camera or inside the card reader, it happens. I prefer SD as well.


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May 10, 2011 16:22 |  #111

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A have no desire to buy a camera that uses CF cards - they are dying and I don't want to invest in them.

CF cards will be around, according to Canon ....

for a long long time to come, we ( Canon ) have absolutely no plans on removing it from our professional camera model lineup.




  
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May 10, 2011 16:27 |  #112

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He's probably referring to them getting bent inside the camera or inside the card reader, it happens. I prefer SD as well.

you really can't put it in backwards so theres not much to worry about. You could try and force it the wrong way but you'd know pretty fast that your doing something wrong.




  
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May 10, 2011 16:27 |  #113

And they will continue to be more and more expensive and harder and harder to find as they are relegated to only a few "pro" devices.


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May 10, 2011 16:34 |  #114

ChuckingFluff wrote in post #12384958 (external link)
you really can't put it in backwards so theres not much to worry about. You could try and force it the wrong way but you'd know pretty fast that your doing something wrong.

I think some of the problems are caused by poorly designed CF cards.

If you look at the connector end of the CF card, each opening has a bevel to it. This is to guide the CF pin safely into the connector. What I have noticed is the bevel is not as 'wide' or "deep" on some cards as it might be on others.

Also I have seen some off brand cards where the sockets inside the card are not completely seated or centered and this also can and has grabbed a pin. In those cases the user will feel more than normal resistance, and some will just push a little HARDER and OOPS .... there goes the pin.

I've never bought, nor used any of the off brand cards .... for me it's been nothing but SanDisk or Lexar.

Maybe that is why I have never had an issue?

Keyan wrote in post #12384966 (external link)
And they will continue to be more and more expensive and harder and harder to find as they are relegated to only a few "pro" devices.

CF cards are more expensive because they cost more to produce.
Kinda like it costs more to produce a Maserati then it does to produce a Ford Focus.

I still have some old 2MB CF cards and they still function today...have no use for them but we did try them to see if they still worked and they did.




  
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May 10, 2011 16:37 |  #115

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you really can't put it in backwards so theres not much to worry about. You could try and force it the wrong way but you'd know pretty fast that your doing something wrong.

**** happens


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May 10, 2011 16:37 as a reply to  @ harcosparky's post |  #116

The CF cards remind me of the old Tubes that you had to change in TV sets…I remember my Dad headed out to the hardware store to test the tubes on the machine, straighten out the pins and put them back into the TV so we could watch all (3) channels.


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May 10, 2011 16:39 |  #117

Ya theres flaws in everything but I'll take the speed advantage and the reliability any day over a SD card. ps. You just need to be a little more careful.




  
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May 10, 2011 16:44 |  #118

ChuckingFluff wrote in post #12385038 (external link)
Ya theres flaws in everything but I'll take the speed advantage and the reliability any day over a SD card. ps. You just need to be a little more careful.


you know what's really funny?

people trying to debate CF cards vs. SD cards.

How many other forms of digital media cards has the CF outlasted? outperformed?

How many people are using SmartMedia cards? Remember when they came out, how they were gonna replace CF cards? :rolleyes:

I remember SmartMedia cards having compatibility issues with SmartMedia cameras because of format compatibility issues.

Yet the CF card has a standard interface and will work in all CF devices across the board.

I'd venture to say some of those arguing for the SD cards 'superiority' don't even know there was a card called " SmartMedia".

Something will come along someday and make SD cards obsolete ... and that pesky old CF card will still be around.

To date the CF Card has outlasted all that came before and after it! :D


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May 10, 2011 16:46 |  #119

ChuckingFluff wrote in post #12385038 (external link)
Ya theres flaws in everything but I'll take the speed advantage and the reliability any day over a SD card. ps. You just need to be a little more careful.

didnt happend to me. Ifound it on the net. I just wanted to show that it can happen that the pins get bendet.

I also was not happy that my 60D uses SD Cards, because now my CF Cards where useless.
But I just dont think that SD cards have less quality.


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May 10, 2011 16:49 |  #120

harcosparky wrote in post #12385065 (external link)
you know what's really funny?

people trying to debate CF cards vs. SD cards.

How many other forms of digital media cards has the CF outlasted? outperformed?

How many people are using SmartMedia cards? Remember when they came out, how they were gonna replace CF cards? :rolleyes:

I remember SmartMedia cards having compatibility issues with SmartMedia cameras because of format compatibility issues.

Yet the CF card has a standard interface and will work in all CF devices across the board.

I'd venture to say some of those arguing for the SD cards 'superiority' don't even know there was a card called " SmartMedia".

I agree..
Some people don't want the truth and don't care for the facts. The SD card is newer but it doesn't make it better, the stats proves it again and again. I guess Canon and Nikon got it wrong and Nikon only uses the CF card on the higher end gear the 3D series and for some reason they put it on the D300s. But what does the big two know about CF cards? I think they need to hire some of the folks around here that know better (sarcasm)




  
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