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Sports photography: 85mm 1.8 or f2 100mm?

 
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Jun 01, 2011 16:02 |  #1

Hello,
I like to do sports photography, and for indoor all I have is the 50mm 1.8.. I'm contemplating between the 85 and 100, I use a t1i, so I have that 1.6x crop effect.. Has anybody used both of these lenses, and have a recommendation or preference? I'd also like to know how each of the lenses focus, the websites say "fast", but I've been having no luck finding whether or not the speed they focus in is significantly different.. I plan on getting a f4, 70-200mm for outdoor sports.

Thanks!


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Jun 01, 2011 16:03 |  #2

The 85 1.8 is awesome for sports. One of the faster focusing lenses you will find.


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Jun 01, 2011 16:16 |  #3

85 is great in the corners of the basketball court. It's a little long for under the basket in basketball. Volleyball from the stands would be okay. I found a great sigma 50 1.4 that I used this last season for basketball under the hoop and was very pleased. I used a 7D.


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Jun 01, 2011 16:16 |  #4

The 100 doesn't focus as fast as the 85.
I have the 100L which is faster than the non-L, but focus wise its not very fast


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Jun 01, 2011 16:55 as a reply to  @ Eyal's post |  #5

I've used the 85mm 1.8 on a 50D for basketball and it's fast and sharp. Don't think you can go wrong that lens. On a side note, it's a great lens for portraits too.




  
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Jun 01, 2011 18:21 |  #6

I like the slightly longer focal length of the 100mm f/2, and its an outstanding portrait lens as well. It all depends where you're shooting from. If your right on the court shooting basketball, the 85mm is long enough. If your further away, the 100mm is a better length. If you're in the stands, a 135mm f/2 is even better.




  
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Jun 01, 2011 18:35 |  #7

Bclaf wrote in post #12517601 (external link)
Hello,
I like to do sports photography, and for indoor all I have is the 50mm 1.8.. I'm contemplating between the 85 and 100, I use a t1i, so I have that 1.6x crop effect.. Has anybody used both of these lenses, and have a recommendation or preference? I'd also like to know how each of the lenses focus, the websites say "fast", but I've been having no luck finding whether or not the speed they focus in is significantly different.. I plan on getting a f4, 70-200mm for outdoor sports.

Thanks!

Both lens have fast AF , but I found the 100mm a little long . I use the 85mm 1.8 and Sigma 50-150mm2.8 for indoor sports . I like the Sigma better because of the range . But it depends on the lighting .

If you could get a 70-200mm 2.8 instead of the f/4 model you might be able to use it indoors also.

Eyal wrote in post #12517687 (external link)
The 100 doesn't focus as fast as the 85.
I have the 100L which is faster than the non-L, but focus wise its not very fast

He's not talking about a 100mm macro !


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Jun 01, 2011 18:44 |  #8

Whichever focal length suits you, get that. They are very similar.


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Jun 01, 2011 19:02 |  #9

I believe "fast" generally refers to the shutter speeds obtainable with larger apertures lenses, not the speed of the AF (although thats important too).


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Jun 01, 2011 19:26 |  #10

40dbaby wrote in post #12518558 (external link)
I believe "fast" generally refers to the shutter speeds obtainable with larger apertures lenses, not the speed of the AF (although thats important too).

Yes both are important, but most reviews go into a brief summary of how fast AF is.


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Jun 01, 2011 19:30 |  #11

rweav72 wrote in post #12517685 (external link)
85 is great in the corners of the basketball court. It's a little long for under the basket in basketball. Volleyball from the stands would be okay. I found a great sigma 50 1.4 that I used this last season for basketball under the hoop and was very pleased. I used a 7D.

On average about what ISO do you need at f2.0 to get at least 1/200th shutter speed? When I used my 55-250 f3.5-5.6 in a gym (only lens I had at the time), If i recall correctly I was at 1600 or 3200.. I'd like to have 400- ISO if possible.


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Jun 01, 2011 19:42 as a reply to  @ Bclaf's post |  #12

I use the 85mm for indoor basketball, at f/2.0 I get a shutter speed of about 1/320 at ISO 1600(max) on my Xsi....I have upgraded to a 50D, and figure I will be at iso2000 to get a shutter of about 1/500, which is really what you need for indoor sports...Your question about getting iso400, indoors you will never get that, or I should say unless the gym has a retractable roof in the day time.




  
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Jun 01, 2011 19:48 |  #13

Bclaf wrote in post #12518686 (external link)
On average about what ISO do you need at f2.0 to get at least 1/200th shutter speed? When I used my 55-250 f3.5-5.6 in a gym (only lens I had at the time), If i recall correctly I was at 1600 or 3200.. I'd like to have 400- ISO if possible.

Check out this image comparison:
http://www.flickr.com/​photos/j-pedro/3365877332/ (external link)

If you're at ISO1600-3200 with your 55-250 on the wide end (55), you could probably get away with ISO800-1600 with a 2.8 lens, less with a 1.8 or 2.0.

ISO400 indoors could be pushing it, depending on the light. Obviously a 1.8 or 1.4 is your best bet if you want the fastest...


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Jun 01, 2011 20:27 |  #14

go with the 85 1.8. It's perfect and cheap.




  
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Jun 01, 2011 21:22 as a reply to  @ Lei514's post |  #15

I've had both - 85 can go a bit wider (aperture) and obviously has the shorter focal length. I personally liked having the extra length (insert joke here). But I personally didn't find either difference to be a big deal. 6 of one, half dozen of the other.

Both seemed to AF very fast, no clear winner in that regard. While no complaints really about the 85, my copy of the 100 is great and ended up keeping that one.



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