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Jun 03, 2011 15:12 |  #46

Those look like you just didn't select the correct focus point. the first one it is focused on the ground, any camera will have that problem.




  
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Jun 03, 2011 15:32 |  #47

SaxonIV wrote in post #12530645 (external link)
Those look like you just didn't select the correct focus point. the first one it is focused on the ground, any camera will have that problem.

When using AI servo, Should I just use all the focus point and let the camera do all the work? or use single focus point?


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Jun 03, 2011 15:39 |  #48

chrisandaivi wrote in post #12530766 (external link)
When using AI servo, Should I just use all the focus point and let the camera do all the work? or use single focus point?

You choose the AF point.


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Jun 03, 2011 17:55 |  #49

If you can find a 1D Mark IIn that has low mileage, in good shape, I think it is a great swap. You can shoot in a downpour, you don't lose much in megapixels. I think that even the Mark IIn files will print bigger than the 40D, I can't prove that but my prints always seemed better and I had the two cameras at the same time. The 8.5 fps is breathtaking and you can hold it down for 48 shots in Lg JPEG. If you can inspect it, I would do it, if buying from a picture or on ebay I am not sure. Make sure it comes with the battery charger, retail the charger alone is $400.


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Jun 03, 2011 20:10 |  #50

I have a friend that shoots with the Mark IIn and loves it. He gets terrific results. I considered it but upgraded my 40D with a 7D and am very happy as well.

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Jun 04, 2011 06:36 |  #51

JBF wrote in post #12531496 (external link)
If you can find a 1D Mark IIn that has low mileage, in good shape, I think it is a great swap. You can shoot in a downpour, you don't lose much in megapixels. I think that even the Mark IIn files will print bigger than the 40D, I can't prove that but my prints always seemed better and I had the two cameras at the same time. The 8.5 fps is breathtaking and you can hold it down for 48 shots in Lg JPEG. If you can inspect it, I would do it, if buying from a picture or on ebay I am not sure. Make sure it comes with the battery charger, retail the charger alone is $400.

Pixels are pixels, you cannot print one camera's results bigger than the other. The 40D, with more resolution, will print larger prints. Now overall IQ from one camera could be "massaged" more than another, and therefore could be rezzed up to print better prints than another camera, potentially. The raw/initial jpg has to be better to begin with though otherwise garbage in = garbage out.


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Jun 04, 2011 09:03 |  #52

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Was thinking about the same change (but then from a 20D), mostly because of crop factor, fps and AF.


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Jun 04, 2011 09:09 |  #53

The 1D2 is a fantastic camera and I used one for a lone time before getting a 1D3. I also have a (happily ungripped) 40D and it is my most used camera. Why? Because under "normal" circumstances, it will produce astounding images easily on par with my 1D3, and it is small and light. I save the 1D for the situation where its better abilities are useful, as in low light and/or fast action. It’s just kind of overkill as a daily use camera IMHO. Looking at your beach shots, I doubt a different camera would have helped. Proper technique should have produced very nice shots no matter the camera under those conditions. If you have money dying to be spent, I think I'd go with the better glass idea first.


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Jun 04, 2011 09:21 |  #54

SaxonIV wrote in post #12530645 (external link)
Those look like you just didn't select the correct focus point. the first one it is focused on the ground, any camera will have that problem.

My thoughts are the same. Personally I think the OP should practice a little bit more. I have used a 10D in '03 a 20D in '04 and a 40D since '08 with very active kids, kids sports, soccer, Tae Kwon Do, gymnastics and dance and have not had problems with AF. Sure takes some time and practice but works great.

I have never gripped my cameras. I tried a grip on my 10D for awhile and found it made the camera too big to easily care around for family adventures. Maybe its because I have big hands, but I personally like the weight and feel of the xxD cameras. I do find the 1D cameras amazing and if I did pro sports I would probably consider one, but for family adventures I for my way of travel and movement I would not want a camera that big. This is very personal, some love grips and the extra weight and size of a 1Dx.


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Jun 04, 2011 10:30 |  #55

Lacks_focus wrote in post #12534405 (external link)
The 1D2 is a fantastic camera and I used one for a lone time before getting a 1D3. I also have a (happily ungripped) 40D and it is my most used camera. Why? Because under "normal" circumstances, it will produce astounding images easily on par with my 1D3, and it is small and light. I save the 1D for the situation where its better abilities are useful, as in low light and/or fast action. It’s just kind of overkill as a daily use camera IMHO. Looking at your beach shots, I doubt a different camera would have helped. Proper technique should have produced very nice shots no matter the camera under those conditions. If you have money dying to be spent, I think I'd go with the better glass idea first.

Ok. I'll think about lenses. Looking at my gear, What kind of lens or lenses should I get?
Sure the canon 24-70mm F2.8 would be nice BUT I already have the Tamron for that. And I already have a telephoto ( the 70-200mm) sure it's only the F4 version but I like it like that it's very light. For the amount of money for a new 70-200mm or the canon 24-70 I can get a new 1 series body. AND I surely can't afford a 50mm F1.2. LOL


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Jun 04, 2011 10:39 |  #56

TijmenDal wrote in post #12534370 (external link)
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Was thinking about the same change (but then from a 20D), mostly because of crop factor, fps and AF.

Do it! I made the same switch (with a 1Dc in between) and haven't looked back. The AF is outstanding.

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Jun 04, 2011 13:56 |  #57

TeamSpeed wrote in post #12533972 (external link)
Pixels are pixels, you cannot print one camera's results bigger than the other. The 40D, with more resolution, will print larger prints. Now overall IQ from one camera could be "massaged" more than another, and therefore could be rezzed up to print better prints than another camera, potentially. The raw/initial jpg has to be better to begin with though otherwise garbage in = garbage out.

Sorry for the confusion. I didn't mean bigger, I meant IQ was better. Sorry for the cornfusion. I just felt that the sensor of the Mark IIN was better than the sensor of the 40D. Not that they printed bigger but printed better.


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Jun 04, 2011 14:32 |  #58

I would prefer the 40D to a 1D2 for non-sports work.

The 40D is a much more modern camera, and the 14-bit RAW files are very pretty. I love them.

But the biggest thing is AF. The 1D2 is better at tracking, but I actually found my 40D to be better on one-shot than when I was using my buddy's 1D2. The 40D has cross points spread out around the viewfinder. The 1D2 only has a very thin grouping of cross points, mostly clustered around the centre.

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If you like to use outer AF points, I honestly think the 40D would be a better choice. The mark III on the other hand, is a beast and trumps the 40D AF in all ways.

I'd definitely put the cash towards better lenses. That's more important IMO, especially since you already have an excellent camera. I LOVE my 40D bodies.


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Jun 04, 2011 16:22 |  #59

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IThe 40D has cross points spread out around the viewfinder. The 1D2 only has a very thin grouping of cross points, mostly clustered around the centre.

But how many points 40d has? Shoot with wider apertures and you have to focus/recompose . Atleast with 1 series you have something closer to your focus point.

No weddings here but in general I see 1dmk2 to be quite responsive better than any xxD series. I would take only 7d over it. AGree thought that I wouldn't upgrade for what the OP shoots and get better glass.


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Jun 04, 2011 16:58 |  #60

bobbyz wrote in post #12536216 (external link)
But how many points 40d has? Shoot with wider apertures and you have to focus/recompose . Atleast with 1 series you have something closer to your focus point.

No weddings here but in general I see 1dmk2 to be quite responsive better than any xxD series. I would take only 7d over it. AGree thought that I wouldn't upgrade for what the OP shoots and get better glass.

The number of points doesn't matter in the focus-recompose debate. It's the spread of AF points in the viewfinder. The 9 point crop bodies have an excellent spread of points, which line up almost perfectly with the thirds lines. The 45 point 1.3 crop spread and 9 point 1.6 crop spread are both excellent in viewfinder coverage. The difference though, is that the 40D has extra precision cross points on ALL points, while the 1D mark II only has two outer cross points... the highest and lowest points, which to many, are the least used outer points.


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