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Samyang 14 2.8 wipes the floor with Canon 14 2.8+Canon 16-35II, anyone not satisfied?

 
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Jun 04, 2011 04:32 |  #1

Check all the comparison pictures, why pay €2000 for a Canon 14 2.8 or €1250 for a 16-35II if you can have better IQ with the Samyang 14 2.8 for only €300 ?
http://homepage.univie​.ac.at …erroither/temp/​SyCa14.htm (external link)

First I was doubting to sell my Canon 28-70 2.8 for a 16-35 2.8II.
But now I think I will just buy this Samyang extra.

Question : is anyone NOT satisfied with this lens and sold it and what was the reason ?
Can it also easilly be used for video recording with the manual focus or who uses it for this allready?

I have always been a fan of L-lenses, but if alternative brands get more specialised, it's finally time that Canon drops it's prices.
Maybe we see Sigma's, Tamron's or Canon's with highest quality and coloured rings in future, this would also give a "mental effect" ;)


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Jun 04, 2011 04:46 |  #2

It's a pretty good price, but still worth mentioning is that the Samyang suffers from quite complex moustache distortion. Not very hard to fix if you have a lens profile set up, but you will lose some of the edges due to it, so essentially it'll become a ~15-16mm lens.

Another - and very obvious (but often overlooked) - issue with this lens is no electronic aperture. Unless you shoot wide open all the time, you will have to adjust your shooting style to stop down metering and manual focus.

MF can be quite tricky on an ultra wide f/2.8 lens if you shoot a foreground element close up wide open, but in general, using a hyperfocal distance scale it will be a none issue.
It also lacks the weathersealing a 14L has.


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Jun 04, 2011 06:03 as a reply to  @ TweakMDS's post |  #3

Yes there are lens profiles allready to correct the moustache distortion :
http://www.photo-worx.de …t&task=view&id=​49&Itemid= (external link)

taken from this review:
http://www.4photos.de/​test/Samyang-14mm-2.8-en.html (external link)


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Jun 04, 2011 09:49 as a reply to  @ CanonYouCan's post |  #4

I doubt we'll see a price drop on Canon glass, regardless of what others do.




  
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Jun 04, 2011 09:52 |  #5

I haven't even gotten the lens yet, and I was thinking hard about getting it, but the distortion just puts me off. I need to use it for video work, so it won't do well...


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Jun 04, 2011 09:55 |  #6

I considered adding this lens in the MF category because of cost only.

Unlike other categories, lenses seem priced just about 1:1 to their quality.


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Jun 04, 2011 09:58 |  #7

I had but sent it back. Shrp yes but getting the focus right means Live view for me and my 5Dc aint got it. So pointless cos MF at 14mm is not for me. Even an old Tokina diesl motor driven AF would make this lens worth a couple of hundred more however it does not even have focus confirm.


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Jun 04, 2011 09:59 |  #8

but isn't the Samyang aspc only anyway? It's not even the same type of lens for me.




  
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Jun 04, 2011 10:00 |  #9

The Samyang 8mm FE is the only APSC one.


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Jun 04, 2011 10:03 |  #10

Headshotzx wrote in post #12534697 (external link)
The Samyang 8mm FE is the only APSC one.

Yep you're correct. I guess I just assumed this was the same lens

http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …tra_Wide_Angle_​f_2_8.html (external link)




  
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Jun 04, 2011 10:14 |  #11

By the way, you could just shoot a fisheye then fix that in post, get just about the same result.


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Jun 04, 2011 10:18 |  #12

I have posted frequently on this lens, and am a fan of it. I do agree that optically its excellent, as good as the 14L if not better in sharpness, has no ca, and has good contrast. has less vignetting stopped down to f 5.6. No autofocus/aperture, and whether sealing, or L built quility.
Of course, you cant in my opinion compare it to 16-35II. I own both lenses, and I would gladly give up the samyang to keep the canon. They are not even overlapping focal lengths. the 16-35 is a very versatile zoom lens. Yes, at f 11, 16mm, the corners are barely as good at samyang at 2.8, but the samyang is a one trick pony. 16-35 is a lens that those a lot of things well, and if you were comparing the two, then you would need at least one more prime to fill in the gap between 14 and 25 in my opinion (zeiss 18 or 21, canon 17 tse.


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Jun 04, 2011 10:51 |  #13

S.Horton wrote in post #12534749 (external link)
By the way, you could just shoot a fisheye then fix that in post, get just about the same result.

Not quite.... once you crop out the vignette off the 8mm Samyangs on FF, your shot is closer to a 15 or 16mm fisheye.

As for the 8mm claim, its closer to a 10mm fisheye anyways. (I have the 7mm(claimed) Vivitar Series 1 version and when I compare it to my Peleng 8mm the Peleng is wider by about 5-10%) Still a VERY sharp lens.


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Jun 04, 2011 11:01 as a reply to  @ nureality's post |  #14

The Samyang 14mm wiped the floor in sharpness with pretty much every lens I've owned. You could open a RAW at 100% and everything would be sharp. Granted, my lenses are not high end (Tamron 17-50, Sigma 10-20) but the Samyang was sharp corner-to-corner whereas my current lenses blur out at the edges (probably due to APS-C crop). I ended up selling it for the width of the Sigma, but would definitely buy it again if I ever went full-frame.




  
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Jun 04, 2011 13:25 |  #15

Riot you noticed the difference between a prime and a zoom.


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