Ok just got home from being away, thus I will get a sample shot up soon to show you the noise drama, maybe I'm expecting to much from the old MKIIn, I have recently got myself a MKIII and ISO is clean up past 1600 (daylight) and still clean at 1000 and 1250 (lowlight) but even in well lit conditions I am seeing distinct noise at iso 400 and higher in the MKIIN I sware I used to be able to shoot higher than this even the wife's 600D is clean higher than this, I'll post a photo in about 2 hours for you guys to make your conclusions