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Jun 12, 2011 10:04 |  #1

Hi,
I've just been watching a video that tells you how to trigger a 430EX II off camera with a 7D using the built in flash. I've had a go at this with my 500D and can't seem to get it to work.

I didn't want to simply give up on trying this out, so all I really want is for someone to confirm that this feature is only compatible with high-end camera and not 500D?

Here's the video: http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=f2x-riRKapE (external link)
The guy tells you how to trigger the flash from 4 minutes 9 seconds into the video.

Thanks in advance.
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Jun 12, 2011 10:25 |  #2

The only Canon camera with this feature so far are the 7d, 60d and I think the newest Rebel. Your camera cannot do it without adding a Master capable flash like the 500 series EX flashes or some of the 3rd party flashes. Just get some inexpensive radio triggers like the Yongnuo Rf series and learn how to use manual flash. It is not that hard.



  
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Jun 12, 2011 13:57 |  #3

dedsen wrote in post #12579812 (external link)
The only Canon camera with this feature so far are the 7d, 60d and I think the newest Rebel. Your camera cannot do it without adding a Master capable flash like the 500 series EX flashes or some of the 3rd party flashes. Just get some inexpensive radio triggers like the Yongnuo Rf series and learn how to use manual flash. It is not that hard.

Dale is correct. The 60D, 7D, and T3i are the only canon cameras that can use the built-in pop-up flash to control off camera flash. Works like a charm, but no other Canon cameras can do it. In addition to the 500 series EX flashes for master control, the ST-E2 can also control flash wirelessly from your camera.


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Jun 12, 2011 14:13 |  #4

HughR wrote in post #12580702 (external link)
Dale is correct. The 60D, 7D, and T3i are the only canon cameras that can use the built-in pop-up flash to control off camera flash. Works like a charm, but no other Canon cameras can do it. In addition to the 500 series EX flashes for master control, the ST-E2 can also control flash wirelessly from your camera.

dedsen wrote in post #12579812 (external link)
The only Canon camera with this feature so far are the 7d, 60d and I think the newest Rebel. Your camera cannot do it without adding a Master capable flash like the 500 series EX flashes or some of the 3rd party flashes. Just get some inexpensive radio triggers like the Yongnuo Rf series and learn how to use manual flash. It is not that hard.

Thanks for that. I just wanted to be sure! Will definitely take a look at your suggestions.


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Jun 12, 2011 18:40 |  #5

Keep in mind that the ST-E2 uses the infrared eTTL and is not that reliable, this is the reason I purchased the Cybersync transmitters/recievers​. You will also need the shoe adapter to connect the pc connection to the recievers of each flash.

If you are using off camera flash, I would recommend not using a flash on camera. In order to use eTTL via 500 series flashes, it will need to be on camera. When you are using off camera flash, aren't you trying to get rid of the on-camera flash effect? The whole eTTL system works, but is very sensative and you are limited to do certain things with it.

With wireless tramsmitters/recievers​, you have the versatility to roam around a much wider range and not have to worry about the infrared system communicating. The Cybersyncs are reasonably priced and do pretty much the same thing as the pocket wizards. I bought 1x transmitter and 3 recievers for ~$330. Yeah, the Chinese manufacturers have models to replicate the same effect... but key words.. Chinese Manufacturers. You will not get the customer service or anything if any of them are defective. Where as you purchase from a USA manufacturer, they stand by their products - aka Paul C. Buff products. I have used them and whenever I had any kind of question they always had the right answer there on the spot.


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Jun 12, 2011 20:19 as a reply to  @ corumz's post |  #6

OK.. This is awesome...

How do I use this with my set up?

430EXII flash

2 YN560 flashes

YN RF602 transmitter and 2 receivers .

Thanks!


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Jun 12, 2011 20:31 |  #7

corumz wrote in post #12581965 (external link)
If you are using off camera flash, I would recommend not using a flash on camera. In order to use eTTL via 500 series flashes, it will need to be on camera. When you are using off camera flash, aren't you trying to get rid of the on-camera flash effect? The whole eTTL system works, but is very sensative and you are limited to do certain things with it.

You are aware that you can set the on camera master flash to control/trigger only and not contribute light to the exposure?

I use CyberSyncs also and think radio triggers are the way to go, but your statement is a little misleading.



  
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