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Jun 13, 2011 18:47 |  #1

I'm pretty new to incorporating studio flashes in my work. In my education I learned that the 5D Mark II doesn't sync at a shutter speed of 250. Is there any way around this besides having to acquire a new camera? The strobe I use is a 580EXII with PocketWizards.




  
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Jun 13, 2011 19:10 |  #2

High Speed Sync? Probably not great for the studio Actually depending on the triggering systems delay I have read that sometimes you need to be a t 1/160. I don't think PW has this issue. Outside of that I don't know what else that can be done.


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Jun 13, 2011 19:17 |  #3

I use the 5Dmk2 and PW combo and my sync speed is typically 1/160 and sometimes 1/125.


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Jun 13, 2011 19:22 |  #4

Back in the day, SLRs had a sync speed of 1/60 and they dealt with it. Consider yourself lucky!

But you haven't explained your problem. Do you want a faster shutter speed to freeze motion, or to get correct exposure outdoors?


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Jun 13, 2011 19:37 |  #5

I use the 5d2 and i sync at 1/200 with small flashes triggered via cactus v5's.

If you're doing studio work, why bother with sync speed? as long as your exposure isn't affected by ambient via the shutter speed, you shouldn't have to worry. 1/125 or 1/160 at ISO 100 f8 doesnt really let ambient mess with the exposure in my experience.


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Jun 13, 2011 19:44 as a reply to  @ emdzey01's post |  #6

The real question is what is wrong with shooting at 1/200th or less?




  
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Jun 13, 2011 19:48 |  #7

tripl3distill3d wrote in post #12587935 (external link)
I'm pretty new to incorporating studio flashes in my work. In my education I learned that the 5D Mark II doesn't sync at a shutter speed of 250. Is there any way around this besides having to acquire a new camera? The strobe I use is a 580EXII with PocketWizards.

Keep in mind that the actual flash duration (for speedlites) is usually around ~1/1000s or less, so depending on the lighting situation the actual camera shutter speed might not even matter.


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Jun 13, 2011 22:26 |  #8

Personally, I wouldn't consider a 580EXII as a studio strobe.
Also, which Pocket Wizard? The ControlTL system will work with 580EXII to offer high speed sync (HSS). That delivers shutter speeds well beyond 1/200 but at the cost of total light output from the speedlite.

If you are using simple trigger PWs the the propagation delay means that 1/160 is about the fastest shutter speed you can use without curtain shadows.

As mentioned, shutter speed with studio strobes, well actually, any strobe, is irrelevant as long as its below sync speed. The only time shutter speed becomes an issue is when ambient light will contribute to the exposure at the shutter speed and aperture being used for the exposure.

So, use ISO, shutter speed and F stop to make the ambient light irrelevant and have fun.


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Jun 13, 2011 22:27 |  #9

david lacey wrote in post #12588218 (external link)
The real question is what is wrong with shooting at 1/200th or less?

I have that question as well.


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Jun 13, 2011 23:59 |  #10

I'm using the PocketWizard Plus II.

I guess I didn't really have a shooting problem, but more of a preference without the understanding.

Thanks for the clarity everyone.




  
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Jun 14, 2011 10:55 |  #11

To verify that the 1/160 shutter speed with Pocket Wizard is a triggering consideration.
I routinely shoot at 1/200 shutter speed with Einsteins and Cyber Sync triggers with a 5DII.


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Jun 14, 2011 11:32 |  #12

david lacey wrote in post #12588218 (external link)
The real question is what is wrong with shooting at 1/200th or less?

digital paradise wrote in post #12589135 (external link)
I have that question as well.

Trying to get a shallow DOF while shooting in daylight is my problem with it. I have a 6 stop ND for that.


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Jun 14, 2011 13:17 |  #13

ND filter is the way to go. Or you can get a canon 1d.


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Jun 14, 2011 13:38 |  #14

Or HSS. Videos - Tutorials - Lighting Tutorial.

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Jun 14, 2011 13:59 |  #15

HSS works well but it has it's limitations.
Using a Monolight and ControlTL from Pocketwizard also offers some options. They call it Hyper Sync. There is a page on my tutorial site (Click below) that shows some testing I did with a Genesis 300B.

ND filters are another option. All the options have limitations.


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