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Jun 13, 2011 22:12 |  #1

Well I'm one of those people who have been graced by the goodness of digital photography and never what it is was like owning and shooting film. I've been thinking about buying one lately as something for me to learn and experiment with for fun. These days, I know film cameras are cheap but there's countless decade's-worth of cameras to choose from. Which route would someone who doesn't know anything about shooting film suggest for a camera for something, say under $100? Should I go for something that accepts EF lenses, or maybe something older?


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Jun 13, 2011 22:18 |  #2

I picked up a Canon EOS-1 for the same reasons from keh.com for about $120. Well worth it. Id look there.

Look up the eos 1, 1n, 3 and some of the elan models. Could ask try an av-1 or ae-1. Wouldn't mind having one of those myself.




  
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Jun 13, 2011 22:20 |  #3

If you have a set of EF lenses, get a camera that accepts them. You can find used Elan 7's for ~$60, which is an absolute steal.

Have you considered medium format at all?


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Jun 13, 2011 22:38 |  #4

Since you have ef lenses already, then an eos film camera probably is best. Elan 7n is nice and can be picked up pretty cheap, Eos 1 and 1n for a little more and one of my favorites is the older A2/A2e. You can get one of these at a really great price.


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Jun 13, 2011 23:10 as a reply to  @ GregoryF's post |  #5

By getting body that will accept your EF lenses you can really experience the difference in digital vs film.

That's a great leap back. Some of my friends still shoot film on occasions and achieve delightful results.


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Jun 13, 2011 23:29 |  #6

If you want B&W or (well, what's tantamount to Velvia today), film is better than digital. It's something different with a different look. Analog. Nice change of pace.


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Jun 13, 2011 23:42 |  #7

Velvia is still available.

EOS-3 would be my recommendation. Killer camera for the money. It'll spoil you, though... You'll want a 1D-series digital after using it.

Elan 7 or 7N is also really good... More like the 40/50D series. The Elan 7/7N is very quiet... Canon paid a lot of attention to that. The only thing I don't like about it is the battery grip. You have to remove it to put in fresh batteries. Bad design, IMO. Oh well, they don't need changing all that often.

Here in Silicon Valley, a lot of the "techies" refuse to use digital cameras... They sit at their computers all day long already... so there are a lot of retro/film shooters. Some are even using old folders, TLRs, large format.


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Jun 14, 2011 02:10 |  #8

I have always used the ae1 in the 80's but I don't think it will work ef lenses.


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Jun 14, 2011 04:13 as a reply to  @ ROGERWILCO357's post |  #9

I would buy a Pentax Spotmatic SP II (launched 1971) with an Asahi SMC 55mm f/1.8 lens which if you are lucky you should be able to get for around $100.

Great camera (I have 3 spotmatics of different models), has a needle light meter (which personally I love). OK you're going to be stop down metering but on the big + side it uses M42 screw mount lenses which means you get a massive choice although the Asahi SMC/Super-Taks are some of the best.

I'm not really sure in the point of shooting film if you're going to buy an automated camera I personally with go with the above as yes you are going to learn lots about exposure, aperatures, manual focusing etc but personally that can never be a bad thing and should improve your photography overall.

Film is great because you will also get better at composition as it is not cheap and you can't just click, click, click so you will take greater care over your shots.


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Jun 14, 2011 04:20 |  #10

Personally I love rangefinders and for a bit of film fun I think the former soviet union cameras can't be beat. Take a look at some FED or Zorki cameras, they may just win your heart :)


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Jun 14, 2011 06:37 |  #11

I think you could be horribly disappointed in film if you get a 35mm camera. 120 roll film was the sweet spot towards the end. I don't know whether you can buy one for $100, but the Bronica 2¼″ square was a nice system.




  
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Jun 14, 2011 08:25 |  #12

CJ Joe wrote in post #12589336 (external link)
By getting body that will accept your EF lenses you can really experience the difference in digital vs film.

That's a great leap back. Some of my friends still shoot film on occasions and achieve delightful results.

Would EF compatible film cameras also accept Ef-S lenses too?


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Jun 14, 2011 08:51 |  #13

bowenbee wrote in post #12590748 (external link)
Would EF compatible film cameras also accept Ef-S lenses too?

No. Your 50mm lens is a "normal". Your 70-200mm is a nice telephoto zoom, perhaps a little slow for film, although the IS helps. The 5D's sensor is the same size as 35mm still film frames. And remember you can't easily correct fall-off.




  
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Jun 14, 2011 09:39 |  #14

For goodness sakes pick up an Elan 7/e. I have one and it impresses me every time. Metal body parts as well :) It's got every feature of your modern camera. Then go out and shoot Slides! I've shot Sensia but that's no longer avalible so I'm going to be picking up some fuji provia and velvia. Looking at slides on a light table or through a loupe is something you just have to experience. The colors and light come alive!




  
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Jun 14, 2011 12:09 |  #15

IMO, Velvia 50 is much nicer than Velvia 100F (I see both are still offered). Personally I haven't tried Velvia 100 (no "F"), it was introduced since I largely converted to digital.

There are actually quite a few good slide films, so long as you don't go above ISO 200. Film was really at it's peak, best it had ever been, just about the time the "digital revolution" stampeded over it.

If you want higher speed film, I suggest some pro grade color neg film instead. It's less grainy and contrasty than high speed slide (reversal) films. Slide film will usually need to be mailed away for processing, unless you happen to live in an area where there's a lab that handles it. C41 processed color neg film can more likely be processed locally.

If interested in B&W, some of the chromogenic C41 B&W films are useful for local, 1 hour processing... And perhaps more importantly scan pretty darned well if you want to work with the images digitally.

Traditional, silver-based B&W films are richer and can be quite beautiful, but limit your processing options and just don't scan particularly well (largely because the silver halide particles actually block light, so scans get contrasty and lose detail, particularly in the highlights). The best way to convert a traditional B&W film image to digital is to make a print through the normal silver/chemical enlargement process, and then scan that. I love Fuji Neopan Acros 100 and some day might be tempted to umpack and set up my enlarger to use it again.

I agree that medium format, and for that matter large format, are wonderful. But your choice of film and processing will be quite a bit more limited. You'll also need lenses and perhaps other accessories. If you get an EOS film camera, you can use your existing lenses and perhaps most accessories you might have.


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