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EQUIPMENT REVIEW: Innovatronix Explorer Mini : Part 1 - Initial Thoughts

 
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Jun 15, 2011 09:40 |  #46

I was just interested in ballpark figures. A recycle time of 4 seconds vs. a recycle time of about 7 seconds, etc...


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Jun 15, 2011 09:42 |  #47

A dual trace scope would work..probably overkill, but would work w/o needing to build something :-)

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Maybe it is as simple as Lichtwerk said? Videotape the back of the strobe's ready light. Fire it off...calculate time between light off and on. You have 60 frames per second which gives you 1/60th resolution (.017) which is probably plenty accurate since we only really care about tenth decimal point resolution.


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Jun 15, 2011 09:48 |  #48

i hate to agree with the argumentative one, but if someone said "i don't notice a difference" in recycle time

on the battery or "it's about twice as long" i would consider that more than enough info

i would be more interested myself to see how many full powered pops i can expect from the mini ;)


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Jun 15, 2011 11:24 |  #49
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FJ LOVE wrote in post #12597404 (external link)
if someone said "i don't notice a difference" in recycle time on the battery or "it's about twice as long" i would consider that more than enough info

i would be more interested myself to see how many full powered pops i can expect from the mini ;)

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I agree. Ballpark, relative performance is what I would be interested in.
Additionally, I would be interested in knowing whether the mini provides consistent performance. Reliability is extremely important to me. My experience with my original Innovatronix Explorer 1200 is that with a full charge, I get consistent power. Yes, it fades as the shoot progresses (and recycle time lengthens), but I don't have to worry about whether it's going to have a "good day" or a "bad day". ... Based on what I plan on shooting on location, I have a pretty good feel of whether my tronix will provide sufficient juice or not. Perhaps that's one nice feature of a robust SLA battery.

In contrast, some other battery technologies (for example NiMh in hotshoe flashes) are sometimes VERY unpredictable. ... You think they're fully charged, but after about a dozen pops, you find them fading fast. Other times, partially charged batteries seem to last all night.

Bottom line, I really couldn't care less if recycle time is 0.8 seconds longer. ... But if consistency is in question ... :rolleyes:


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Jun 15, 2011 11:47 |  #50

Does anyone know how Rob Galbraith tests recycle times for his reviews?

On a side note - it sure does seem funny how mental everyone is these days when color temps are measured to the degree & SoftBoxes are to the 1/10th of an F across the face.

Lets just exclude recycles times from these similar critical measurements? Because, in the end, we're all concerned about numbers, right?

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Jun 15, 2011 15:10 |  #51

Shoot the test with video camera and look at the audio timeline to see the exact duration.




  
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Jun 16, 2011 14:34 |  #52

Lichtwerk wrote in post #12595550 (external link)
You could always video it and check the exact time from flash to beep.

Excellent suggestion, Dennis! Tried it and reported results here:

https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1055533

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Jun 16, 2011 16:37 |  #53

Awesome! Glad to see they these are a real product now! Cant wait to read your performance tests Rob!


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Jun 16, 2011 19:28 |  #54

whitesell wrote in post #12591108 (external link)
The mini shut off after the 92nd flash.

Ew...not even 100 shots with this product?




  
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Jun 16, 2011 23:28 as a reply to  @ SK6's post |  #55

Hi All,

I've been working closely with Innovatronix and I believe they're working to resolve the issues that Jim is having.

I did some additional testing but unfortunately part 2 of my review will take a little longer than expected due to my father being hospitalized and that taking priority over everything else.

It will happen, I promise. Please be patient.

BTW, coming from an audio background, I'm using a digital audio editor instead of video and can measure recycle times in the same way.


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Jun 17, 2011 00:54 |  #56

TMR Design wrote in post #12607799 (external link)
Hi All,

I've been working closely with Innovatronix and I believe they're working to resolve the issues that Jim is having.

I did some additional testing but unfortunately part 2 of my review will take a little longer than expected due to my father being hospitalized and that taking priority over everything else.

It will happen, I promise. Please be patient.

BTW, coming from an audio background, I'm using a digital audio editor instead of video and can measure recycle times in the same way.

Robert,

Sorry to hear about your father. Hopefully all will work itself out and your father will be healthy in no time. These tests can wait...there are some things that are MUCH more important than # of flash pops.

Good luck to you, your father, and the rest of your family.


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Jun 17, 2011 01:38 |  #57

TMR Design wrote in post #12607799 (external link)
Hi All,

I've been working closely with Innovatronix and I believe they're working to resolve the issues that Jim is having.

I did some additional testing but unfortunately part 2 of my review will take a little longer than expected due to my father being hospitalized and that taking priority over everything else.

It will happen, I promise. Please be patient.

BTW, coming from an audio background, I'm using a digital audio editor instead of video and can measure recycle times in the same way.

Best wishes for your father and your family. POTN can wait.

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Jun 17, 2011 01:40 |  #58

Sorry to hear about your father Rob. Best wishes to him, you, and all your family for a speedy recovery.


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Jun 17, 2011 01:54 |  #59

SK6 wrote in post #12606477 (external link)
Ew...not even 100 shots with this product?

Vagabond Mini seems to be better product.




  
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Jun 17, 2011 02:09 |  #60

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Vagabond Mini seems to be better product.

i thought you were building one ? :confused:


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