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7D to D7000 to 5D3?

 
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Jun 20, 2011 14:09 |  #16

Yashart, I have to ask this but have you tested the D7000 yet? Perhaps you should take pictures and compare to your current 7D.......same objects, same lighting conditions....and then see the difference for yourself. You will then know if it is worth making that change.

Also, download a trial version of a program such as Topaz Denoise....it is a fantastic program and may also do the trick until the 5D3 comes out.


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Jun 20, 2011 14:23 |  #17

EL_PIC wrote in post #12626603 (external link)
Digital Cameras depreciate faster than grease out of a goose.
Invest in Glass - Tolerate Digital Cameras !!

Really? I'm seeing used 5d 2s selling all the time for $2200 +. My friend bought a new one for $2300 awhile back. I see 60Ds selling used for $900, when they sell new in some spots for under a $1000. 7D used also, always priced at$1300 +. This is very little depreciation for electronics.


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Jun 20, 2011 14:27 as a reply to  @ DL Photo's post |  #18

go to dpreview and look at the hi-Iso comparison between the 2 systems - it is very hard to tell the 7D from the d7000
In any other respect the 7D is far better (and for many of us the ergo of canon is far more usable)
if you are being paid for your work - is the differences detectable by your customers
if you do it as a hobby - does the hi -iso makes such an impact on your work (if yes please post an example)
and than there is PONT - much more fun to be here with a canon


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Jun 20, 2011 14:31 |  #19

d7000's iso performance is not really significant enough for a switch


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Jun 20, 2011 14:38 as a reply to  @ yjt's post |  #20

And besides getting rid of the 7D,your 50L and 85L would feel betrayed,lol!


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Jun 20, 2011 14:42 |  #21

Steve Campbell wrote in post #12626844 (external link)
Really? I'm seeing used 5d 2s selling all the time for $2200 +. My friend bought a new one for $2300 awhile back. I see 60Ds selling used for $900, when they sell new in some spots for under a $1000. 7D used also, always priced at$1300 +. This is very little depreciation for electronics.

You listed all current gen systems in their class. I hope value hasn't died for them yet. ;)

yashart wrote in post #12626246 (external link)
D700 is an option as well. I just went with the D7000 because it is newer technology and has 1080p video (not something I use frequently, but nice to have).

I expect Nikon to announce something in Aug, availability is another question.

With the 5D2, D700, D300s and 1DsIII going through a refresh in the next year, the question is can you stay put with the D7000 for now?




  
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Jun 20, 2011 14:49 |  #22

My only comments is that ever since I purchased a 5dmk2 the keeper rate is excellent. I guess I should eloborate and say keeper rate of consistant incredible IQ (not really talking about AF). RAW files are extremely easy to push/pull if you screw up in the exposure category.

OP, I notice your style of shooting requires decent AF speed but not lightening fast AF from a 1d series or even 7D. Its a nice to have though.

At this moment in time the 7D is weak for high ISO performance and the 1dmk4 is the big guns for IQ and AF (in good contrast situations and decent available light). The 1dmk3 is equally as weak in the high ISO departement compared to the 7D but....the 1dmk3 has the nod for better IQ.

I can track my daughter on a swing with a 5dmk2 so this is sufficient enough for what I need the camera. 5dmk3 is all talk at the moment but I wanted a body that will provide me consistent high IQ keeper rate. This is why I decided to go for a second 5dmk2. When the 5dmk3 comes out I hope its not gonna have major issues.


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Jun 20, 2011 15:23 |  #23

yashart wrote in post #12625996 (external link)
Simple and to the point. Just looking for some opinions/thoughts here.

I was unhappy with 7D high ISO performance. Otherwise I absolutely loved the camera. Best body I've used to date.

Easy fix you say, get the 5D2.

The AF of the 7D, blows the 5D2 out of the water. Not something I'd be willing to sacrifice...

Hence the jump to Nikon. D7000 seems to be the best option. Better high ISO performance than the 7D. Better AF system than the 5D2.

Ideally I would prefer to stay with Canon, but I'd prefer not to wait until next summer or later for the 5D3. If the 5D3 gets the 7D AF system, I'd be happier than a pig in slop :)

Biggest issue here would be the investment in new glass... Glass does hold its value very well, however it would be a pain buy and sell all over again.

I sense a "grass is always greener" problem here.

Easiest and most straightforward solution would be to learn to get better high ISO performance out of the 7D.... There are tricks and softwares that might solve all your issues. One of the biggest problems with the rapid upgrade cycle of modern DSLRs is people never get really good with what they've got... The are on to a new "latest and greatest" model before they finish reading the instruction manual of the "old" model.

But, looking at your Flickr, there is virtually nothing on there that remotely needs the AF performance/features of 7D. Everything there could easily have been shot... or would have been even better shot with 5DII. I only saw one action shot, a bicycle race or rally... and that could easily have been shot with 5DII using a prefocus method. Or just tracking with center AF point in AI Servo, 5DII would probably have done fine, depending upon the actual speed of the cyclists. Absolutely everything else would have been just fine shooting with 5DII.


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Jun 20, 2011 15:26 |  #24

DL Photo wrote in post #12626765 (external link)
Yashart, I have to ask this but have you tested the D7000 yet? Perhaps you should take pictures and compare to your current 7D.......same objects, same lighting conditions....and then see the difference for yourself. You will then know if it is worth making that change.

right, the cheaper Canon 60D easily beats the Nikon D7000 in ISO performance, AF, image quality and HD video!
http://www.popphoto.co​m …011/01/lab-test-canon-60d (external link)




  
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Jun 20, 2011 15:34 |  #25

dgrPhotos wrote in post #12626956 (external link)
You listed all current gen systems in their class. I hope value hasn't died for them yet. ;)

Well, the 5D 2 has been out for about 3 years and it hasn't depreciated much at all.


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Jun 20, 2011 16:04 as a reply to  @ Steve Campbell's post |  #26

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Jun 20, 2011 16:08 |  #27

5D2, looking at your flickr I can't see you need lightning fast AF, I see no sports/wildlife subjects. If I switched it would be for the D3s


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Jun 20, 2011 16:11 |  #28

watt100 wrote in post #12627224 (external link)
right, the cheaper Canon 60D easily beats the Nikon D7000 in ISO performance, AF, image quality and HD video!
http://www.popphoto.co​m …011/01/lab-test-canon-60d (external link)

The DXOMark test would say the opposite....I say that as an owner of the 60D. **ducks for cover** ;)




  
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Jun 20, 2011 16:40 |  #29

dgrPhotos wrote in post #12627487 (external link)
The DXOMark test would say the opposite....I say that as an owner of the 60D. **ducks for cover** ;)

The DXOMark test is biased toward lower resolution sensors.


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Jun 20, 2011 16:49 |  #30

RTPVid wrote in post #12627622 (external link)
The DXOMark test is biased toward lower resolution sensors.

The top 3 are high res systems. One of them is the D3x.




  
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