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Jun 20, 2011 21:33 |  #601

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Wow. After seeing this, I tossed mine in the garbage. Thanks.

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Jun 20, 2011 21:36 |  #602

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As a matter of fact, I would say that the histogram does indicate that the shot is underexposed. Should have been pushed at least one stop higher in-camera and then adjusted to taste during post-processing.

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Jun 20, 2011 21:37 |  #603

krb wrote in post #12570546 (external link)
According to the histogram you posted, you had absolutely no risk of clipping any highlights in the clouds. A slightly longer exposure in-camera and then pulling the exposure back down while converting the raw would not have lost any detail in the clouds, would have given the deep blue sky you were trying to capture and would have resulted in much less noise in that sky.

A classic case for Expose To The Right.

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Jun 20, 2011 21:37 as a reply to  @ post 12628760 |  #604

The thread is still looking far from running out of steam for me :cool:


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Jun 20, 2011 21:38 |  #605

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Most of the world is not a studio.

Yeah you are right. But the real money is made in the studio or on location with lights as needed. Here is a prime example of the garbage images a 7D takes. With some post work to boot.

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Jun 20, 2011 21:43 |  #606

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Yeah you are right. But the real money is made in the studio or on location with lights as needed. Here is a prime example of the garbage images a 7D takes. With some post work to boot.

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Typical image of a shoe coming from a 7D user. ;)
Another user with a dslr such as a 5DMII or Sony, Nikon or Pentax would have shot a Dock Martin.

That is a beautiful image by the way.


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Jun 20, 2011 21:53 |  #607

downhillnews wrote in post #12629268 (external link)
Yeah you are right. But the real money is made in the studio or on location with lights as needed. Here is a prime example of the garbage images a 7D takes. With some post work to boot.

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That's a great shot, but I'm still waiting for the other shoe to drop.


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Jun 20, 2011 21:54 |  #608

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Typical image of a shoe coming from a 7D user. ;)
Another user with a dslr such as a 5DMII or Sony, Nikon or Pentax would have shot a Dock Martin.

That is a beautiful image by the way.

Now do not get me wrong. The 7D may have a noise level that is unacceptable to those that shoot sports or journalism based work I understand that. I would guess 90% of the stuff I shoot these days is in studio and the remainder is during daylight hours sports wise. So I can get by with my 1DsII fine. Thanks my boss Mike shot the shoe I was an assistant meaning I held cards for him.


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Jun 21, 2011 14:09 |  #609

sharrowm wrote in post #12629345 (external link)
That's a great shot, but I'm still waiting for the other shoe to drop.

lol bw!


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Jun 21, 2011 18:28 as a reply to  @ Tadaaa's post |  #610

I shot this photo of wild alligators mating last month in the southeast U.S. at 8:06pm (believe me it was getting dark).

I used a 7D with the ISO set at 6400, and even this only got me 1/80 for a shutter speed.

The image shown below was shot as a jpeg (not raw).
There was no sharpening, levels, contrast, or NR of any type applied.
In other words ZERO post processing. It is also not cropped and has been resized only from the original image file.

Lens used was a Canon 300 4 L with a 1.4 extender.

I don't think it's all that bad considering...

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Jun 21, 2011 18:32 |  #611

41 pages of posts on something that isn't even an issue?

Jeez. Again, there are lots of great pictures produced by the 7D by people who know what they are doing. Does it handle noise as well as the 5D2? -Maybe not, but it is still on the extreme edge from being problematic. Anyone suggesting otherwise has a bad camera or is 100% drama queen.




  
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Jun 21, 2011 20:22 |  #612

I'm still clueless as to why people in this thread compare the 7D to the 5D2. Ummm totally different cameras for different styles of photography. Everything I've read that is logical about the 7D has it being a VERY good camera. But it is not meant to compete with the 5D2 anymore than its meant to complete with a 40 thousand dollar hasselblad!


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Jun 21, 2011 20:38 |  #613

Although I understand what you are saying, explain how one would discuss

: For those of you that think the 7D is good with noise...

Compared to what ? Maybe to keep things honest in terms of price and sensor size, Nikon, Sony ?

If it's not as good as a FF or, maybe, other brands, then accept it for what it is. It doesn't mean it is a bad camera, just not, maybe, the best choice if you find noise is an issue in your shooting. If it suits your needs, no one can tell you it doesn't. It's just a camera. No one is insulting your mother/wife/husband/gi​rlfriend/boyfriend or all of them ;-)a


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Jun 22, 2011 09:17 |  #614

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Although I understand what you are saying, explain how one would discuss

: For those of you that think the 7D is good with noise...

Compared to what ? Maybe to keep things honest in terms of price and sensor size, Nikon, Sony ?

If it's not as good as a FF or, maybe, other brands, then accept it for what it is. It doesn't mean it is a bad camera, just not, maybe, the best choice if you find noise is an issue in your shooting. If it suits your needs, no one can tell you it doesn't. It's just a camera. No one is insulting your mother/wife/husband/gi​rlfriend/boyfriend or all of them ;-)a

Id compare it to a camera made the same year and with the same sensor size, simple as that. something like the nikon D300s would have been a fairer comparrison


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Jun 22, 2011 09:37 |  #615
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^^^
Makes little sense...
I'd compare it to a camera at a similar price point, which is more like the 60D than the 7D.




  
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