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Jun 21, 2011 08:47 |  #1

Hey guys,

So I'm working towards establishing my wedding photography operation here. Currently I've got a 50D and a 24-70 2.8 with a working range of 38-112.

I've done the first wedding, turned out great but what's more important is that I've learned the limitations of my gear.

I need a second body for back up (costs $100 to rent for one day), need a 70-200 for the reach (costs $25 to rent) and need something wide for group and environmental shots as my working 38-112mm range isn't wide enough.

I'm trying to decide between a 5d II (would take care of back up body and give me 24mm wide) or a 70-200 2.8 II (would give me a long 112-320mm reach) as my next piece of equipment. I've got $2.5k to burn and cannot make up my mind.

Let me know what you think or if there are options I've not yet considered.




  
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Jun 21, 2011 09:11 |  #2

If I were in your position, I'd buy a 5d classic and a 70-200 f2.8 non-is.


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Jun 21, 2011 09:25 |  #3

^+1.. I don't understand people who think it's ok to go into a wedding shooting with one body and one lens.. If either one would have failed, you would have been SOL and ruined someone's day. I know you're planning to get a backup for the next one but you shouldn't have done the first with one. With that said, get more lenses and rent the body until you can afford it. bodies depreciate faster than glass so it's a better long term investment.


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Jun 21, 2011 09:27 |  #4

yeah, put the 24-70 on the 5d (about $1000 used) and get a 70-200 IS (you can find these for $1400 used) for the 50d. killer 2 body setup and you won't have to switch lenses.




  
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Jun 21, 2011 09:59 |  #5

If you need to ask I'd keep saving till you can figure it out for yourself. I'd also stick with kids and engagements if you're really this new and don't have any back up equipement. Keep shooting you'll get there one day.




  
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Jun 21, 2011 10:04 |  #6

To do weddings you have to have a second body. Renting for each event is a losing proposition over time. The 24-70 is a great lens to build around and I echo the sentiment for a 5D classic.




  
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Jun 21, 2011 11:12 |  #7

As the other said 5Dc and 70-200 f/2.8L IS USM is best both world, 2nd body is important for wedding.


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Jun 21, 2011 12:55 |  #8

Jethro790 wrote in post #12631517 (external link)
If I were in your position, I'd buy a 5d classic and a 70-200 f2.8 non-is.

ni$mo350 wrote in post #12631597 (external link)
^+1.. I don't understand people who think it's ok to go into a wedding shooting with one body and one lens.. If either one would have failed, you would have been SOL and ruined someone's day. I know you're planning to get a backup for the next one but you shouldn't have done the first with one. With that said, get more lenses and rent the body until you can afford it. bodies depreciate faster than glass so it's a better long term investment.

Im with both of these guys. my advice to anyone looking to make money shooting wedding is to NEVER shoot one with only one body. One body with a whide angle zoom and one with a telephoto zoom IMO is a great place to start and the bare minimum.


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Jun 21, 2011 13:43 |  #9

I shot my best friend's wedding as a favor to him since I don't do this as my primary job, even though I'd like to. I don't know how I would have managed without two bodies to be honest. Saves time from having to switch lenses and the most obvious is what if you only had one body and something happened to it. I don't think it's really an issue of it failing but what if a kid ran into you and your camera goes crashing down. There's a lot of hypotheticals really, but I'm glad I had a two body set up.


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Jun 22, 2011 02:03 as a reply to  @ spamster's post |  #10

Rent the body and get the 70-200 II.

Edited..now that Ive thought this through a little more.

Get the body and rent the glass. You can check the prices but it should be that both the 5dII and the 70-200 II are both roughly the same price. If you can rent the 70-200 for $25 you will be saving money over renting the 5dII for $100. But this is under the assumption that you referred to these two items in your quotation of the rental prices, and that you arent eagerly waiting for the 5d3 to come out.

In any case its up to you, and im sure you have thought out the possibilities more than I have.


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Jun 22, 2011 03:43 |  #11

It reads to me that the OP did rent the second body and the 70-200 for the wedding. Seems to me that they recognise the necessity for a backup body.


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Jun 22, 2011 04:02 |  #12

there is one thing that is clear for me in youre post. You have very little experience.

I would advice you to not spend 2000 on equipment based on answers on a forum alone. You have a camera, and hopefully you are well aware of what youre equipment can do and what it can't. Start by investing in a lens. And if you are planing to use 100 on a camera, then buy a 2-300 dollar camera untill you can afford what you realy want.

I would personaly go for a 135L and a 5D with those money. I would put the 24-70 on the 5D to get wideangle, and the 135L on the 50D to get more tele.

Wedding means less light, in bigger buildings and often situations where flash is not an option. 135L is a great tool for such situation.


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Jun 22, 2011 08:22 |  #13

Keep renting, and build the rental costs into what you charge.




  
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Jun 22, 2011 08:27 |  #14

dessoir wrote in post #12631392 (external link)
Hey guys,

So I'm working towards establishing my wedding photography operation here. Currently I've got a 50D and a 24-70 2.8 with a working range of 38-112.

I've done the first wedding, turned out great but what's more important is that I've learned the limitations of my gear.

I need a second body for back up (costs $100 to rent for one day), need a 70-200 for the reach (costs $25 to rent) and need something wide for group and environmental shots as my working 38-112mm range isn't wide enough.

I'm trying to decide between a 5d II (would take care of back up body and give me 24mm wide) or a 70-200 2.8 II (would give me a long 112-320mm reach) as my next piece of equipment. I've got $2.5k to burn and cannot make up my mind.

Let me know what you think or if there are options I've not yet considered.

Get the 5DII. I would not get the classic. I'm going to get thrashed for this but I think it is too old, and the lack of video might not be what you want if you ever decided to do wedding videos. I'm nobody though. Just what I would do if I had your choice. Get a good price used and you have money for renting a lens until you make your money back.


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Jun 22, 2011 08:58 |  #15

Jethro790 wrote in post #12631517 (external link)
If I were in your position, I'd buy a 5d classic and a 70-200 f2.8 non-is.

In most wedding situation, it will be somewhat low light. I think you will be better off with the IS.


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