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Upgrading from T2i to ?

 
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Jun 23, 2011 21:38 |  #1

Don't read [Hey fellow Cannon owners, I want to upgrade my camera but I'm not sure what I should upgrade to, or if I should upgrade at all. I've been shooting with my T2i since October of 2010, and I feel like I'm learning very quickly and some of the features (shutter speed) on the T2i aren't helping me out. I like to photograph sporting events, and wildlife. I also do portraits but I want to get into event (weddings), and nature photography. I was thinking about the 60D or the 7D I really didn't see any BIG differences that would make me want to pay an extra 700 for the 7D. Any ideas for what I should do?]

I apologize for the confusion, I did mean fps not shutter speed. Also i'm not sure if its my camera or if its the card I'm using but when I take multiple pictures they don't register in the camera for up to 30 seconds, I'm using a PNY Professional 16gb 20mb/s card. I did like a few different features on the 60D like the Bigger body. I have a battery grip so the size isn't a big deal. I like the fact that is has the upper screen like the pro DLSR's. When I was at the store I really enjoyed the wheel instead of the buttons. But if you guys think that its not really a deal breaker compared to the T2i than I guess the best thing for me is to get a few lenses? So any ideas to what I should upgrade to? A few people said a 70-200 and one guys said the 17-55mm? I was thinking the 24-105mm f/4L IS USM and the Tamron 70-200mm f/2.8 because of the price difference. Do you think that the 17-55 2.8 is better than the 24-105 4L?


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Jun 23, 2011 21:43 |  #2

Get some nicer lens 1st ;)
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Jun 23, 2011 21:52 |  #3

How is the shutter speed limiting you? I don't see anything you are describing that would warrant an upgrade to a 60d or a 7d. I would invest in lenses. If you do a lot of sports, then the faster fps could be helpful along with a better autofocus system.


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Jun 23, 2011 22:09 |  #4

the t2i isnt a bad camera. it can do everything you want to i dont see how shutter speed has anything to do with limiting your work. i would invest into a better tele for sports. the 70-200 2.8 for example. the tamron version is very inexpensive and a good place to start off with.

if anything the 7d would be more helpful for sports but i wouldnt go there yet.


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Jun 23, 2011 23:48 |  #5

i don't think 60d or 7d is worth an upgrade from the t2i in your situation. you will be getting the same quality images and probably won't see any difference. so depending on your budget i'd try to get a 70-200 2.8 variation for sports and a 17-55 for portraits and events. also with the upgrade of these 2 lenses, you can sell off everything you have now but the 50 1.8 and you'll have a solid collection.


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Jun 23, 2011 23:58 |  #6

1/4000 vs 1/8000 is killing you?


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Jun 24, 2011 00:03 |  #7

That's a full stop. In bright light I often hit up at 1/8000 at ISO 50 with my faster lenses wide open.


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Jun 24, 2011 00:36 |  #8

I had the T2i, didn't like the size, way too small for my hands, the reasons u should upgrade to 60D R

1- Bigger body, more comfortable.

2- upper screen, this is very nice feature, the t2i doesn't have it, and i really enjoy that screen, big plus, u don't even need to turn on ur LCD to change setting.

3- 9 cross-type AF points.

4- Wireless flash control

5- Better LCD Screen for video

6- Rear wheel and joystick

7- Better ViewFinder

I personally think the 60D worth every penny. Now i won't even think about buying a rebel serie camera, the xxD and xD R just way better.


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Jun 24, 2011 00:40 |  #9

Glueeater wrote in post #12648776 (external link)
1/4000 vs 1/8000 is killing you?

I think the OP is referring to fps not shutter speed?

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Jun 24, 2011 02:01 |  #10

Djones09@gmail.com wrote in post #12648018 (external link)
...some of the features (shutter speed) on the T2i aren't helping me out. I like to photograph sporting events...

Sporting event pictures from a T2i.

IMAGE NOT FOUND
IMAGE IS A REDIRECT OR MISSING!
Byte size: ZERO | Content warning: NOT AN IMAGE


Focal Length: 160.0mm
Aperture: f/5.0
Exposure Time: 0.0016 s (1/640)
ISO equiv: 1600
Exposure Bias: none
Metering Mode: Matrix
Exposure: shutter priority (semi-auto)
White Balance: Auto
Flash Fired: No (enforced)
Orientation: Normal
Color Space: sRGB



IMAGE NOT FOUND
IMAGE IS A REDIRECT OR MISSING!
Byte size: ZERO | Content warning: NOT AN IMAGE


Focal Length: 370.0mm
Aperture: f/7.1
Exposure Time: 0.0010 s (1/1000)
ISO equiv: 1000
Exposure Bias: none
Metering Mode: Matrix
Exposure: shutter priority (semi-auto)
White Balance: Manual
Flash Fired: No (enforced)
Orientation: Normal
Color Space: sRGB

IMAGE NOT FOUND
IMAGE IS A REDIRECT OR MISSING!
Byte size: ZERO | Content warning: NOT AN IMAGE


Focal Length: 240.0mm
Aperture: f/5.0
Exposure Time: 0.0025 s (1/400)
ISO equiv: 2000
Exposure Bias: none
Metering Mode: Matrix
Exposure: shutter priority (semi-auto)
White Balance: Auto
Flash Fired: No (enforced)
Orientation: Normal
Color Space: sRGB


The T2i caused no problems in creating these images.



  
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Jun 24, 2011 03:21 |  #11

i actually downgraded from a 60D to a t2i and couldn't be happier. i lost ~2fps, 1/8000 to 1/4000 and knocked some weight off. i can't tell a difference with low light performance. my photos from both cameras at iso6400 @ 1.4 look like crap. i suck, i don't care. i could care less about the wireless flash sync since i fail at OCF. i couldn't justify a $2 hinge, marking up the price ~$300. i also don't do video or abstract angled shots, so the tilty swivly screen was worthless. i miss the second LCD. i miss the thumb wheel. i miss the ergonomics. well, not really.. i gripped my t2i. i believe image quality will be the same on a t2i/60D/7D since they use the same sensor.

oh yeah, and i pocketed $400 in the process.

i rented a 35L for a friend's wedding, and although these L lenses truly "shine," as others say, on full frame cameras, quality glass on an SLR format camera is what gets you greater images regardless of full or 1.6x sensors... i was extremely pleased with the performance of a "crappy" rebel with L glass.

get what's right for you. if you're going to invest 50% or more of your time into action photography, get a 7D. that AF system is a beast.

and yes, i have to throw it out there, and i apologize, but personally, that 60D was a waste of my time, lol


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Jun 24, 2011 11:19 |  #12

I love my t2i, and will probably keep it for a long time even as a 2nd body, but when I got to try out a friends 60D, I do like the feel of it a better, and having the 2nd wheel and top LCD made sitting changes much easier on the fly.

I think I'm in the similar boat as the OP, and I'm looking to eventually add the 7D to my collection, and take both bodies with me on racing events where lens swapping really isn't an option. Now I just have to keep hording my Amazon points so I can get the 7D at a decent price. :)


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Jun 24, 2011 12:52 |  #13

soshibo wrote in post #12649379 (external link)
i actually downgraded from a 60D to a t2i and couldn't be happier. i lost ~2fps, 1/8000 to 1/4000 and knocked some weight off. i can't tell a difference with low light performance. my photos from both cameras at iso6400 @ 1.4 look like crap. i suck, i don't care. i could care less about the wireless flash sync since i fail at OCF. i couldn't justify a $2 hinge, marking up the price ~$300. i also don't do video or abstract angled shots, so the tilty swivly screen was worthless. i miss the second LCD. i miss the thumb wheel. i miss the ergonomics. well, not really.. i gripped my t2i. i believe image quality will be the same on a t2i/60D/7D since they use the same sensor.

oh yeah, and i pocketed $400 in the process.

i rented a 35L for a friend's wedding, and although these L lenses truly "shine," as others say, on full frame cameras, quality glass on an SLR format camera is what gets you greater images regardless of full or 1.6x sensors... i was extremely pleased with the performance of a "crappy" rebel with L glass.

get what's right for you. if you're going to invest 50% or more of your time into action photography, get a 7D. that AF system is a beast.

and yes, i have to throw it out there, and i apologize, but personally, that 60D was a waste of my time, lol

I have to disagree u on this one. Here are the extra features from the 60D to a T2i.

The 60D has better focusing system, it has 9 cross type focusing points. Where the T2i only got one.

The 60D has the tilt LCD, it is extremely good with video and some special situations. I used it at my zoo photo shoot most of the time to get over fence to have a clear shot of the animals. Awesome features for me.

The 60D has in camera raw processing, it is great on the go.

The 60D has better built body. Although they discard the magnesium but the plastic is way more solid than the kind found on the Rebel.

The 60D top LCD and advance controls are better, especially the 4 small buttons to control ISO, Drive, Metering and AF.

The 60D has wireless flash control.

The 60D shoots faster fps.

The 60D has a higher shutter speed.

The 60D has +/- 3EV.

The 60D has better view finder with 0.95X

The 60D has better battery life.

The 60D has more quality adjustment on pictures formats and scales.

The 60D has nice grip and better weight. Mounting a heavier lens won't feel super front heavy like any rebel.

The 60D has some degree on weather sealing.

Based on these above 14 additional functions, I can say the 60D is well worth its value. If one don't value these functions, by all means go for something else. But it is not fair to say the 60D is a waste of money in general. I personally will take a xxd over a rebel anyday.


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Jun 24, 2011 13:32 |  #14

I upgraded to 7D from Ti2 and just like you do I needed something with a faster frame rate. Its a huge leap. 7D has dual chip and there is a significant focus improvement on moving objects.
As for the shutter speed its about 8 frames per second but you got to pay for the Flash Card. You need a high spped card too. So far I am using Transcend 16GB x600 cards (about $72) and they are holding up really good.
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Jun 24, 2011 13:39 |  #15

thestone11 wrote in post #12651339 (external link)
I have to disagree u on this one. Here are the extra features from the 60D to a T2i.

The 60D has better focusing system, it has 9 cross type focusing points. Where the T2i only got one.

The 60D has the tilt LCD, it is extremely good with video and some special situations. I used it at my zoo photo shoot most of the time to get over fence to have a clear shot of the animals. Awesome features for me.

The 60D has in camera raw processing, it is great on the go.

The 60D has better built body. Although they discard the magnesium but the plastic is way more solid than the kind found on the Rebel.

The 60D top LCD and advance controls are better, especially the 4 small buttons to control ISO, Drive, Metering and AF.

The 60D has wireless flash control.

The 60D shoots faster fps.

The 60D has a higher shutter speed.

The 60D has +/- 3EV.

The 60D has better view finder with 0.95X

The 60D has better battery life.

The 60D has more quality adjustment on pictures formats and scales.

The 60D has nice grip and better weight. Mounting a heavier lens won't feel super front heavy like any rebel.

The 60D has some degree on weather sealing.

Based on these above 14 additional functions, I can say the 60D is well worth its value. If one don't value these functions, by all means go for something else. But it is not fair to say the 60D is a waste of money in general. I personally will take a xxd over a rebel anyday.

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please refer to the text in my post where i say to "get what's right for you." it coincides well with your statement "if one don't value these functions, by all means go for something else."

and i never said the 60D was a waste of money, either. i stated it was a waste of MY time :)

enjoy your camera and lenses. i'm enjoying mine.


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