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Jun 26, 2011 10:01 |  #571

vickylou wrote in post #12659631 (external link)
Looking for aused lens for the 60d, has anyone own both VC and non-VC version, how do they compare? i have seen a few used non-vc and wondered if the VC would offer a large benefit, e.g. faster AF.

AFAIK, AF speed won't change, Tamron uses the same motor in both lenses. The main difference is the VC which lets you handhold at lower shutter speeds.

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- Having owned a couple IS lenses, I can honestly say the VC on this lens is wonderful. Solid 5 stops when shooting photo (steady hands = 1/10 no problem)

Just a quick FYI, assuming you're coming from the 1/focal length rule, 1/10 is around 3 stops.


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Jun 26, 2011 11:58 |  #572

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Me, just swapped Sigma 17-70 OS HSM to this Tamron VC lens. Some first shots...

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Clearly sharper lens than my copy of the Sigma was.

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How do the two lenses compare the sigma 17-70 is the alternative in my price range. I want a lens for general use, portraits to be used indoors/low light. Good AF as my 2 year old won't stay still for long, to partner a 60d. Bascially something a little faster and sharper than the kit 18-55IS?


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Jun 26, 2011 12:50 |  #573

Sirrith wrote in post #12659794 (external link)
AFAIK, AF speed won't change, Tamron uses the same motor in both lenses. The main difference is the VC which lets you handhold at lower shutter speeds.

Just a quick FYI, assuming you're coming from the 1/focal length rule, 1/10 is around 3 stops.

...the 1/(focal length * crop factor) rule, that is, and yes that would be 3 stops tops.

vickylou wrote in post #12660249 (external link)
How do the two lenses compare the sigma 17-70 is the alternative in my price range. I want a lens for general use, portraits to be used indoors/low light. Good AF as my 2 year old won't stay still for long, to partner a 60d. Bascially something a little faster and sharper than the kit 18-55IS?

Even though the VC is just fine on this one, I must admit I have found the focus speed a bit wanting with subject movement in low-lit ambience. With a decent flash setup, you should just be fine. 2 year old's do tend to get attracted and distracted by the flash though and you tend to miss out on some of those shots with their natural expressions. The new Sigma 17-50 has a faster focus, I've heard, so you might want to consider that.


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Jun 27, 2011 01:04 |  #574

nikmar08 wrote in post #12660452 (external link)
...the 1/(focal length * crop factor) rule, that is, and yes that would be 3 stops tops.

Even though the VC is just fine on this one, I must admit I have found the focus speed a bit wanting with subject movement in low-lit ambience. With a decent flash setup, you should just be fine. 2 year old's do tend to get attracted and distracted by the flash though and you tend to miss out on some of those shots with their natural expressions. The new Sigma 17-50 has a faster focus, I've heard, so you might want to consider that.

Same thoughts. Sigma 17-70 OS HSM focused quicker, but I don't find either of these being quick or reliable enough for fast action. Though I would like to hear anyone that has quick enough camera /lens to be successfully used with moving children :D Usually you anyway miss shots with any camera/lens combination. I hope someone proofs this to be otherwise with some setup. With Sigma the reliable starting aperture for long end is about 5.6 (there are good copies giving good sharpness even with 4.0, but I wouldn't expect it with that lens). With Tamron there should be some advantage at 50mm concerning aperture/sharpness, but the lenses aren't comparable if 70mm is important and the Tamron cannot be paired with a lens having that focal length. My experience with IS (or OS, or VC, or SR or whatever) is that it won't settle steady fast enough for fast situations, so I prefer high ISO, faster shutter speeds and IS/OS/VC/SR off.

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Jun 27, 2011 01:15 as a reply to  @ VeijoM's post |  #575

One more. Some lenses you aren't happy with, some lenses seem to get a close relationship with you. Somehow this lens, even though it seems to be faulty, feels "right". It might go to repair (the aperture got stuck after liveview shooting) but after it returns, I, for the moment, think it will be a nice lens to own. Not sharpest possible, but somehow nice combination of focal lengths, usable sharpness, fastish aperture and realistic weight.

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Jun 30, 2011 10:49 |  #576

nikmar08 wrote in post #12660452 (external link)
...the 1/(focal length * crop factor) rule, that is, and yes that would be 3 stops tops.

Even though the VC is just fine on this one, I must admit I have found the focus speed a bit wanting with subject movement in low-lit ambience. With a decent flash setup, you should just be fine. 2 year old's do tend to get attracted and distracted by the flash though and you tend to miss out on some of those shots with their natural expressions. The new Sigma 17-50 has a faster focus, I've heard, so you might want to consider that.

Thank you for your help. I have found a non VC version new for £70 lessthan the VC version and just wondered if I should pay the extra for the VC or for my uses will i be fine without it? Will the VC enable me to get a sharper pic at 50mm and 2.8?


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Jul 01, 2011 15:06 |  #577

vickylou wrote in post #12682897 (external link)
Thank you for your help. I have found a non VC version new for £70 lessthan the VC version and just wondered if I should pay the extra for the VC or for my uses will i be fine without it? Will the VC enable me to get a sharper pic at 50mm and 2.8?

Sharper depends here on two factors, lens sharpness and non shaky pics. You should search for lens reviews to compare the lens sharpness at 2.8 and 50 mm. There is so much possibility to get a bit "differently focusing" or even slightly faulty lens, that the differences between the non VC version and VC version might even, whichever is theoretically sharper. With VC you should be able to get more unshaken pics at longer shutter speeds than with the non VC version, but the VC needs a bit of time to settle before it gives nonshaky (stabilized) pic. If you can wait that small moment holding the fire button halfway, yes, I would say you can get more sharp pics with the VC version when it has time to stabilize itself. But if you fire right away, you WILL get more unsharp pics with the VC version. And if you use flash or short shutter speeds, there is no advantage of VC and the delay is against you. Then, of course, you can turn the VC off and have nearly as good images with the VC lens.

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Jul 05, 2011 20:07 |  #578

+1 for what Veijo said.


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Jul 05, 2011 21:38 |  #579

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Jul 05, 2011 21:48 |  #580

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Jul 08, 2011 10:52 |  #581

Pulled the plug, mine arrived today!!! very excited :)


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Jul 08, 2011 15:05 |  #582

I will be listing my MINT LNIB 2 month old one in the for sale forum soon. ( maybe 75-100 shots through it only!!) I love the lens, but I miss the range of my 15-85 and money is a little tight right now, so the newest one has got to go. What do you think $480 shipped?


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Jul 09, 2011 11:40 as a reply to  @ bmwcolin's post |  #583

My PP sucks, but I love this lens.


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Jul 09, 2011 14:49 |  #584

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Pulled the plug, mine arrived today!!! very excited :)

Let us see some pics then.


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