Help, my wireless router stops working everyday

I have Verizon fios and wanted to upgrade to wireless n so I plugged a cisco wireless n router into the back of my fios router and set it up without a hitch. After a while, my macbook would occasionally not find my wireless network and I would have to unplug the cisco router and it would work again.

This started happening alot, so I got a Trendnet Easy Upgrader (wirless access point) and plugged it into the back of my Fios router. Again, I set it up with no problems. Now, every day I get home from work, my wireless network is not detected and I have to unplug the Trendnet and everything is fine again. This happens on both my Macbook and my PC netbook.

Any ideas on how to fix this?

If your wireless router is using draft N then there is a good chance this will continue. You have two options. Switch to G or dig into your wireless router and find these two settings and change the values. Since it's a Trendnet, it may be pretty basic and not have them.

RTS Threshold = 2306
Fragmentation Threshold = 2306

If this doesn't fix it, you may have something interfering with the signal.

Make sure you have the latest firmware, also.

MaxxuM wrote in post #12679386
If your wireless router is using draft N then there is a good chance this will continue. You have two options. Switch to G or dig into your wireless router and find these two settings and change the values. Since it's a Trendnet, it may be pretty basic and not have them.

RTS Threshold = 2306
Fragmentation Threshold = 2306

If this doesn't fix it, you may have something interfering with the signal.

Logged into the Trendnet and changed the settings like you recommended.
These were the default settings:
RTS Threshold = 2347
Fragmentation Threshold = 2346

Explain to me to me what 'draft n' is and why I would continue to have problems.

Merlin_AZ wrote in post #12679569
Make sure you have the latest firmware, also.

I tried to update, but it's having trouble updating.

Are you using anything else at the time, like a cordless phone?

Apollo.11 wrote in post #12680022
Logged into the Trendnet and changed the settings like you recommended.
These were the default settings:
RTS Threshold = 2347
Fragmentation Threshold = 2346

Explain to me to me what 'draft n' is and why I would continue to have problems.

Draft N (or 802.11n) was not set in stone by IEEE until 2009. Before that (and even now in some cases) different company's used different chips with slightly different configurations. Most often you can get them to work together with some modifications to settings.

These settings in the most basic terms, increase the likelihood that your computers will stay connected, with the downside being that it will add a little overhead which translates to lower speeds. However, the slow down will be negligible with these settings.

A firmware update 'may' help, but if the chipset is 'draft' (pre-2009) then I doubt it will help. As far as other devices (like phones) knocking you off, I doubt that too because these situations usually result in a lot of noise, which would knock you off constantly or degrade your connection repeatedly. Which you did not describe.

What you're describing is loss of connectivity after periods of wireless inactivity. That sounds like an RTS problem. Your connection is probably not being 'kept alive'. Adjusting the RTS threshold will cause your wireless connection to respond in a shorter period of time (oversimplified), increasing the likelihood that you'll stay connected longer.

Higher grade (and newer) wireless routers typically will not have these issues because they use smarter firmware what recognizes these issues and will compensate automatically.

tim wrote in post #12681514
Are you using anything else at the time, like a cordless phone?

No, it's down when I get home from work.

MaxxuM wrote in post #12681651
Draft N (or 802.11n) was not set in stone by IEEE until 2009. Before that (and even now in some cases) different company's used different chips with slightly different configurations. Most often you can get them to work together with some modifications to settings.

These settings in the most basic terms, increase the likelihood that your computers will stay connected, with the downside being that it will add a little overhead which translates to lower speeds. However, the slow down will be negligible with these settings.

A firmware update 'may' help, but if the chipset is 'draft' (pre-2009) then I doubt it will help. As far as other devices (like phones) knocking you off, I doubt that too because these situations usually result in a lot of noise, which would knock you off constantly or degrade your connection repeatedly. Which you did not describe.

What you're describing is loss of connectivity after periods of wireless inactivity. That sounds like an RTS problem. Your connection is probably not being 'kept alive'. Adjusting the RTS threshold will cause your wireless connection to respond in a shorter period of time (oversimplified), increasing the likelihood that you'll stay connected longer.

Higher grade (and newer) wireless routers typically will not have these issues because they use smarter firmware what recognizes these issues and will compensate automatically.

Very informative. I guess now I'll just have to wait and see if my connection stays up. Kind of a bummer that "newer" routers typically don't have these issues, but I'm on my second router with that problem. Probably because I'm cheap.

I'll let you know how it works out.

Sounds like a similar problem I had. I've had Verizon DSL for about 5 years. Until about 2 months ago it was rock solid. I mean never once did I have a problem with connectivity. Then for the last 3 months every day 5 or 6 times a day I'd lose the internet. I'd call and call and the techs would get a connection but then within the hour it would go out again They sent me a new modem cuz the old one was a dinosaur. Same thing. Constant loss of internet. But for the last two weeks it's been back to perfect. So who the heck knows what the problem was.

Hope you get yours worked out.

Apollo.11 wrote in post #12681683
No, it's down when I get home from work.

Drat, if only you were talking about a woman instead of a device.

Do you have a splitter somewhere before the "cable" gets to the modem?

Does the wired connection to the router work, when you lose the wireless?

tim wrote in post #12684162
Drat, if only you were talking about a woman instead of a device.

LOL

nemesis47 wrote in post #12684761
Do you have a splitter somewhere before the "cable" gets to the modem?

Does the wired connection to the router work, when you lose the wireless?

No splitter and the wired connection never goes down.

Came home today and the wireless network was still up. Keeping my fingers crossed.

Well, no luck. Still dropping out with extended periods of non use. Any other suggestions?