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Jul 01, 2011 17:00 |  #16

rodleviton wrote in post #12689974 (external link)
Canon 70-200L f4 IS or also consider the 70-300L IS for that extra reach and if you have the extra cash.

Honestly, the sharpness doesn't compare. And if you just add a high-quality 1.4x TC to the 70-200 f/4L IS you get 98-280 f/5.6. So you get practically the same coverage without speed loss, while paying less and getting more.

Honestly, the 70-300L seems to me was a brainchild of the marketing department, not the tech department. Yes, its a large improvement over the 70-300IS, but it will attract more 1st-time L-buyers rather than people who know what they need/want... especially the 300mm end. Same as the 70-300IS before it.


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Jul 01, 2011 17:04 |  #17

Madweasel wrote in post #12690118 (external link)
All things are relative and the question becomes how sharp is sharp? The McLaren F1 is fast, but not Bugatti Veyron fast. I would just say both are fast, same as I said both lenses are sharp.

Yeah until you put an 70-200 f/4L IS into the conversation... because the thing is PRIME sharp. Honestly @ f/4 on up... the thing is a razorblade. Until you shoot with one, you won't believe it... after you've shot with one... you'll never wanna be without one.


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Jul 01, 2011 17:17 |  #18

Get the 70-200 f4IS, it's a very good lens that isn't going to break the bank.




  
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Jul 01, 2011 17:38 |  #19

ar10 wrote in post #12690015 (external link)
I haven't researched the 70-300L much - in a nutshell is it as sharp as the 70-200 4.0?

I honestly have not used the 70-200L F4 but I can say that the 70-300L is very sharp, very quick to focus and is close up ready. I really like the extra reach....


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Jul 01, 2011 18:11 |  #20

Just so the discussion is apples and orange, the F4IS lens is optically different then the non IS F4 version. A lot of folks think its just the addition of IS on the old design, but its a total optical upgrade, much sharper.




  
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Jul 01, 2011 18:25 |  #21

ar10 wrote in post #12690279 (external link)
Thanks for the suggestions regarding the 17-55mm, I have thought about that as well. Forgot to mention I do have a 50mm 1.8 that I'll probably carry with me to reachout a bit farther than 30mm. With only $1500ish to spend, I think I would get more mileage out of 70-200 type lens. Since i frequently use my prime to shoot, im very used to shuffling my feet to frame the image.

I tend to agree with the others that a walkaround is the most important lens you can have. If that walkaround is a prime, that is fine as well. Once you have that covered, with a prime or 17-50/55/85 ish zoom, you can look into the 70-200/4IS. It is an absolutely awesome lens! If you have anything left over, pick up a used flash like the 430EXII or 580EXII.


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Jul 01, 2011 18:36 |  #22

If you're used to primes and can live without zoom, you could get an 85 f1.8/100 f2 and a 200 f2.8 and still come in under budget. Both of those are sharper than the f4 IS.

If you do want a zoom, not much not to like about the f4 IS other than it's not f2.8.


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Jul 01, 2011 18:44 |  #23

70-200mm f/4 IS, it is claimed as the second sharpest zoom lens that canon ever made. I am more than happy with mine.


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Jul 01, 2011 19:17 |  #24

Spend a 100 bucks on the kit lens and then pick a long FL lens. Then you have good coverage. Granted the kit lens feels like a toy but at least the copy I have is very sharp.

In HI I think you will want some reach for birds, surfers, dolphins etc. so something that can get you out there will be enjoyed.

Which island are you headed to?


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Jul 01, 2011 21:51 |  #25

I'm going to be going to Big Island which is heard is nice and not as busy as Oahu. Funny I actually sold the kit lens today, sold a 55-250 before that as well. Not they were bad lenses, but I really found myself shooting with either the 30mm / 50mm prime because I love the low light flexibility and sharpness.




  
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Jul 01, 2011 22:59 |  #26

I have only spent time on Kauai but hear the big island is amazing, particularly the volcanos. You could take a pns and still get some keepers!

Have a great time.


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Jul 01, 2011 23:35 |  #27

My recommendation is either the 70-200l f4 IS or the EFS 15-85. I have both and depends of what you like shotting, you can't go wrong with either of these great lenses.

The 15-85 is cheaper, has the best IS I have every use on any lens, IQ matches that of L lenses, and the range of 15-85 is really versatile and invaluable.

The 70-200 f4 IS is really my favorite lens for long distance use. The sharpeness on this less is outerworldly good. If you need a medium to long distance zoom, look no further.


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