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Jul 11, 2011 18:28 |  #1

...and you'd paid for it to be photographer professionally, would you be pleased with the editing? Softening the skin etc?

I know the background isn't good, but it was just a snapshot of a friend's baby I took today, not a proper set up shot.

Just after comments on the editing on the face not the composition/background etc.

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Jul 11, 2011 19:35 |  #2

I'm not sure whether altering a person's features is ever the proper thing to do, let alone that of a baby's.

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Jul 11, 2011 22:04 |  #3

I think it looks pretty good. Although I agree with David, if editing means removing blemishes that normally would not be there, I cant see a problem. You have done that and corrected the exposure.
If anything, I would minimise the skin softening as it is bordering on a 'fake' look.
People expect that look in fashion shots, but not in baby shots.


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Jul 11, 2011 23:26 |  #4

Skin smoothing should never be performed on anyone before they've hit puberty IMO. If you have PS you could do some spot healing on some areas but outside of that let it go..


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Jul 12, 2011 03:08 |  #5

I agree there no smoothing women use potions and lotions for baby smooth skin.
I would try shoot again as that bib, as with all bibs push upwards and squash the face.


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Jul 12, 2011 04:20 |  #6

Ok thanks guys, appreciated. I thought that it would look better without the spots and wrinkles etc but if that's not generally the done thing.... Good to be told early on!

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Jul 12, 2011 07:51 |  #7

I agree with the comments.

Personally, I would minimize the blemish on the child's right cheek, and maybe a couple of blemishes on the forehead, and nothing else.

If it were my child, I would not be embarrassed by the blemishes, and the child doesn't know the difference! So perhaps a couple touches, but don't make it look like something was done, my opinion.


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Jul 12, 2011 08:03 |  #8

I was trying not to make it look like it had been altered obviously, but from the comments I see it's not worked out and i've been barking up the wrong tree.

Thats what this forum is for!

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Jul 12, 2011 08:19 |  #9

The real issue to me is not the skin smoothing, but the more technical issues.
1. The exposure is not correct, and needs to be corrected - first.
2. The eyes are always the most imporant aspect of any image. The eyes in the first look dead, no highlights, lighten and add some directional highlights.
3. Skin soften / blemish correction should be minimal. But babies just like anyone can get rough skin. Depending on the situation I would correct for minor stuff. That is part if professional photography. But I would keep it to a minimum and as invisible as possible.


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Jul 12, 2011 10:10 |  #10

LBaldwin wrote in post #12744655 (external link)
The real issue to me is not the skin smoothing, but the more technical issues.
1. The exposure is not correct, and needs to be corrected - first.
2. The eyes are always the most imporant aspect of any image. The eyes in the first look dead, no highlights, lighten and add some directional highlights.
3. Skin soften / blemish correction should be minimal. But babies just like anyone can get rough skin. Depending on the situation I would correct for minor stuff. That is part if professional photography. But I would keep it to a minimum and as invisible as possible.

Exactly this ^^^. I don't have a problem with the skin smoothing...although it is bordering slightly on overdone.


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Jul 12, 2011 10:51 |  #11

I may be the minority, but I think you did a very good job. If that was my baby I would be happy with what you did.


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Jul 12, 2011 11:04 as a reply to  @ SJC from VT's post |  #12

LBaldwin wrote in post #12744655 (external link)
The real issue to me is not the skin smoothing, but the more technical issues.
1. The exposure is not correct, and needs to be corrected - first.
2. The eyes are always the most imporant aspect of any image. The eyes in the first look dead, no highlights, lighten and add some directional highlights.
3. Skin soften / blemish correction should be minimal. But babies just like anyone can get rough skin. Depending on the situation I would correct for minor stuff. That is part if professional photography. But I would keep it to a minimum and as invisible as possible.

Exactly.


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Jul 12, 2011 12:47 |  #13

In my opinion gentle skin smoothing is okay on babies as long as it isn't overdone. I think you did a nice job and if it were my baby I'd want the baby acne touched up. Cradle cap and baby acne are not permanent and I think it is okay to retouch that stuff. Young babies have a lot of skin blemishes sometimes and I think professionals often retouch or smooth that stuff. You rarely see a professional baby photo where the baby has red patchy skin or cradle cap. I've also been told that shooting in really good light helps. You should read this link if you are interested in baby photography https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=912133. It has really helped me.




  
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Jul 12, 2011 13:46 |  #14

SJC from VT wrote in post #12745507 (external link)
I may be the minority, but I think you did a very good job. If that was my baby I would be happy with what you did.

Thank you! I was quite pleased with the pic until I saw everyone's comments! All good though, I wanted criticism, that's why I posted here, but a compliment is nice to get too!


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Jul 12, 2011 13:48 |  #15

LBaldwin wrote in post #12744655 (external link)
The real issue to me is not the skin smoothing, but the more technical issues.
1. The exposure is not correct, and needs to be corrected - first.
2. The eyes are always the most imporant aspect of any image. The eyes in the first look dead, no highlights, lighten and add some directional highlights.
3. Skin soften / blemish correction should be minimal. But babies just like anyone can get rough skin. Depending on the situation I would correct for minor stuff. That is part if professional photography. But I would keep it to a minimum and as invisible as possible.

Sorry, didn't make it clear - the first pic is the unedited one, the 2nd is my edit.

1. Even in the 2nd one, or just in the first?
2. The eyes in the 2nd look ok? Do you think they need artificial highlights?
3. Are you saying it's overdone in the 2nd one?

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