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What is Canon doing?!?(watch out, frustration post...full of rant LOOOOL)

 
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Jul 20, 2011 20:44 |  #121

JWright wrote in post #12794522 (external link)
You guys really have no reason to whine about the "slow" pace of photography gear upgrades...

IN the film days you could swap sensors every 36 shots, now we have to buy a whole new camera. It matters more now.

Besides, the gripes are more about how Canon seems to be relaxing while everyone else catches up and passes them in some areas, not about the industry pace as a whole.


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Jul 20, 2011 20:48 |  #122

JonK wrote in post #12794846 (external link)
...manual focus...

and mustache distortion...

And full frame and sharp corner to corner.


You act like it is a ridiculous request. How does Samsung make a well performing 16mm f2.4 for under $400, with a slightly bigger sensor than Canon? How does Panasonic make a nice 14mm f2.5 for $300? It's not like we are asking for stuff that can't be done.


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Jul 20, 2011 23:01 |  #123

The 1DMKIII makes me cringe sometimes. It's getting long in the tooth. It's still a nice camera for sure but the D3s that I used to have has about 2.5-3 stops over the 1D3 at higher ISOs, is a FF camera, and can blast off 9fps.

So yeah...what is Canon doing...or rather what have they done recently? Nothing really.

The time is now. Let's hope something special is announced sooner rather than later.




  
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Jul 20, 2011 23:12 |  #124

Canon seems to be having trouble keeping production up on existing products either that a move to keep prices high don't know which. Just to add I would be happy with a better quality control system where you would never have to wonder if the lens you bought was a keeper . The crap shoot process on some models is annoying as all get out.


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Jul 20, 2011 23:17 |  #125

JonK wrote in post #12794816 (external link)
Dude by producing a good performing (no, great performing because if it were just average then we'd hear about it) 15mm f/2.0 means it would be cost prohibitive.

Can you provide some technical data to back that up, dude?




  
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Jul 20, 2011 23:31 |  #126

JonK wrote in post #12794816 (external link)
Excusing the entire fact that the EF-S form factor is an attempt to create affordable lenses.

Also, dude, can you provide some Canon literature saying that point of the EF-S form factor is to be affordable? I thought that the point of EF-S was to market lenses with a Short backfocus design, providing users of crop cameras lenses that are appropriate for the smaller sensor. EF-S lenses cover focal ranges that EF lenses do not, and with any degree of practicality CAN NOT, because they have to cover a full frame sensor.

Here's the Wikipedia entry for Canon EF-S, which describes the mount: "The proximity of the rear element to the image sensor greatly enhances the possibilities for wide angle and very wide angle lenses, enabling them to be made smaller, lighter (containing less glass), faster (larger aperture (external link)) and less expensive."

Emphasis is mine, because that's exactly what I'm asking for here.

There are plenty of cheap EF lenses. Many of them are out of production now. There is no reason why an EF lens cannot be cheap. If the only reason for EF-S was to be "affordable," why would they have not just continued making cheap EF lenses?




  
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Jul 21, 2011 05:21 |  #127

Keep in mind that Canon seems to be only releasing L primes at this point to replace their EF counterparts. Example 100mm macro replaced by 100 L. I wouldn't hold my breath for any EF non-L lenses, let alone EF-S L lenses.


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Jul 21, 2011 06:39 |  #128

Maybe the reason why Canon isn't/doesn't produce "L" quality EF-s lenses (with the possible exception of the 17-55 f/2.8 I.S. and the 10-22 f/3.5-4.5 lenses) is that perhaps they figure if people WANT "L" quality glass, or more specifically actual L glass, then they'd better move up to either the 1D series (1.3x crop sensor) or go all out and move up to FULL FRAME.

Otherwise be happy with the EF-s lens lineup, and/or be happy with how the current "L" lenses work on your 1.6x crop factor cameras!

Canon probably figures, you can't have your cake AND eat it too!

They also probably think that they already cater to 1.6x crop factor camera owners enough by producing the EF-s lens lineup which AREN'T compatible with their other, MORE EXPENSIVE bodies (with the exception of one like the 10-22 which is compatible with the 1.3x crop sensor bodies after a slight, and EASY modification).

So maybe they figure be satisfied with what you have.


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Jul 21, 2011 07:29 |  #129

tkbslc wrote in post #12795215 (external link)
And full frame and sharp corner to corner.

And better than his red ringed wide zoom. ;)


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Jul 21, 2011 09:47 |  #130

Canonswhitelensesrule wrote in post #12797322 (external link)
So maybe they figure be satisfied with what you have.

Good way to stop getting money from your customers.


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