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24-105 L crop - for portraits only?

 
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Jul 25, 2011 11:46 |  #1

hi guys n gals, been thinking of a few lenses to get - at the moment i have a 600d and 60mm macro 2.8 - while this is a beautiful lens to work with i kinda miss having a longer lens and slightly wider..

currently only take portraits (and product photog - hence having the macro) but wanting to get an L lens for build quality/future investment down the track.

finding it hard to find information bout it for portraits since everyone keeps saying its not wide enough.. so my questions are;
1. does the 24-105L IS have a good enough depth of field to create a good portrait at the long end?
2. what would the quality of images be compared to the 60mm macro (very sharp lens)
3. and is this an ideal purchase? i found that it can be bought online for approx 1k AUD- was looking at 30mm sigma but sells for round 500 and worried bout focus issues
4. would a sigma 30mm 1.4 and canon 85mm 1.8 be better alternatives?




  
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Jul 25, 2011 11:56 |  #2

If "only" for portraits, I do not think the 24-105L would be my choice (I own one).. It is my "walkaround" lens. I think # 4 above would be a much better choice.


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Jul 25, 2011 12:00 |  #3

Option #4




  
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Jul 25, 2011 19:12 |  #4

The 24-105 would be perfect for studio portraits, where you typically shoot at f8 or f11. I would use a wider aperture lens for outdoor portraits.


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Jul 25, 2011 20:32 |  #5

jrscls wrote in post #12821461 (external link)
The 24-105 would be perfect for studio portraits, where you typically shoot at f8 or f11. I would use a wider aperture lens for outdoor portraits.

This. IMO 24mm is possibly not wide enough for full body shots in some studios. (on crop)

Outdoors I would go for a 50 or 85 prime.


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Jul 25, 2011 21:52 |  #6

It's a great lens for portraits on a crop.


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Jul 25, 2011 22:26 |  #7

yeah, i would like a 30, 50 or 85 prime but having an inbetwen 60 prime (even tho its 2.8) makes it hard to justify getting another prime in the 50-85 range and i have to deal with reposting/replacing sigma 30 if i get a copy that doesnt do well with my 600d(guess thats my main fear)

i heard theres a 17-55 2.8 is for crop..but thats apparently a vacuum for dust and over 1k for a non L
24-105 has IS for lower light and video but has all the niceness factors an L has just worried about the depth compared to my primes (at larger focal lengths)




  
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Jul 25, 2011 22:34 as a reply to  @ martymeow's post |  #8

the 'problem' with the 24-105 is that there is a noticeable loss of sharpness(especially if you pixel peep) and contrast at the 105mm end where you'd probably be shooting most for portraitures.
I tend to avoid going beyond 70~80mm if i can for this reason. However you can still rectify it in post by sharpening and playing with contrast/curves.


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Jul 25, 2011 22:37 |  #9

Maybe something is wrong with my 24-105 because it is just as sharp at 105mm as shorter fl's.


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Jul 25, 2011 22:52 |  #10

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No sharpening
1)uncropped
2)100% crop


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Jul 25, 2011 22:57 |  #11

I like the hilite alerts! :D A lens shouldnt be soft at f8 anyhow...


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Jul 25, 2011 23:04 |  #12

Ya, print screen with highlight alert on:rolleyes:
zarray only said noticeable loss of sharpness and contrast at 105, no aperture was mentioned.
To be honest, I just don't have a problem at any aperture with this lens for what it does. It sure is nice to have the flexibility. Plus, it can make ugly old men look like hunks.


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Jul 25, 2011 23:10 |  #13

ktownhero wrote in post #12819075 (external link)
Option #4

+1.

I have 24-105L, which is on my T2i / 550D during travelling; but I think that primes will do better job with portraits.

BTW, nice shoot, windpig. I love the mood of the photo.


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Jul 25, 2011 23:44 |  #14

windpig wrote in post #12822940 (external link)
Ya, print screen with highlight alert on:rolleyes:
zarray only said noticeable loss of sharpness and contrast at 105, no aperture was mentioned.
To be honest, I just don't have a problem at any aperture with this lens for what it does. It sure is nice to have the flexibility. Plus, it can make ugly old men look like hunks.

my bad. i was referring to wide open at F/4

Also with studio lighting where one attempts to model the light around the subject or at low light, the loss of contrast is somewhat less obvious. It becomes more obvious during the day, but can easily be compensated for in post processing.


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Jul 26, 2011 00:51 |  #15
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+2

For portrait, you sometimes want to use the shallow dof to isolate your subject, a F4 zoom lens is simply not good enough to create shallow dof.

Option 4 is a much better choice for portrait. Not the slightest doubt:)

x_tan wrote in post #12822980 (external link)
+1.

I have 24-105L, which is on my T2i / 550D during travelling; but I think that primes will do better job with portraits.

BTW, nice shoot, windpig. I love the mood of the photo.


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