Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Index  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
Guest
New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Photography Talk by Genre Weddings & Other Family Events Talk 
Thread started 18 Jul 2011 (Monday) 16:37
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)

First all-Asian wedding - a complete disaster!

 
this thread is locked
scorpio_e
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
7,402 posts
Gallery: 3 photos
Likes: 258
Joined Aug 2007
Location: Pa
     
Jul 28, 2011 13:48 |  #136

If they want to see samples well yeah I would edit 10 or so and show them your works. Seems like a reasonable request provided you have the time to do it.


www.steelcityphotograp​hy.com (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)
Damadsetta
Senior Member
Avatar
442 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Dec 2010
Location: Washington, DC
     
Jul 28, 2011 13:50 |  #137

scorpio_e wrote in post #12838426 (external link)
If they want to see samples well yeah I would edit 10 or so and show them your works. Seems like a reasonable request.

It's a reasonable request if they pay him. However this was not a part of the contract. He should not feel obligated to provide samples, especially unedited ones which may dissapoint the client, and he should not feel obligated to edit until he has been paid.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
SMP_Homer
THREAD ­ STARTER
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
5,597 posts
Gallery: 25 photos
Likes: 403
Joined Mar 2008
Location: London, Ontario
     
Jul 28, 2011 13:50 |  #138

scorpio_e wrote in post #12838426 (external link)
If they want to see samples well yeah I would edit 10 or so and show them your works. Seems like a reasonable request.

I showed them several weddings months ago - they've seen my work.
Now they're indirectly saying "show me our wedding before we pay you"


EOS R / 7D2 / 1D IV (and the wife has a T4i)
24-105L, 100-400L, 100L, 300 2.8L, 1.4x II / 2x II
Sig35A, Sig85A, Sig14-24A, Sig24-105A, Sig70-200S, Sig150-600C
600EX-II X3, 430EX-III X3

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Hard ­ Drive ­ Disk
Senior Member
Avatar
485 posts
Joined Jul 2011
     
Jul 28, 2011 13:52 |  #139

This isnt a kidnapping. you are a professional you will start your work AFTER you have been payed. Not before. I would demand payment.


Gear List
I Love ThinkTank
Is It Normal for Me to Have 7 Camera Bags?

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Damadsetta
Senior Member
Avatar
442 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Dec 2010
Location: Washington, DC
     
Jul 28, 2011 13:52 |  #140

Hard Drive Disk wrote in post #12838452 (external link)
This isnt a kidnapping. you are a professional you will start your work AFTER you have been payed. Not before. I would demand payment.

Agreed.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
nicksan
Man I Like to Fart
Avatar
24,729 posts
Likes: 43
Joined Oct 2006
Location: NYC
     
Jul 28, 2011 14:08 |  #141

Looks like you are at a stalemate then. You won't budge and they want samples. :lol:
Who's going to blink first? The suspense is building by the day.

It depends on how bad you want to get paid for your efforts or how much trouble you want to go through legally, to recoup the money.

All I am saying is, if a few samples will get them to finally pay, it seems like a worthwhile thing to do. Of course, from the look of things, even that's not a sure thing, so sure, I understand your stance on this.

If it were me, I'd just want this situation to disappear, so I'd do whatever that is necessary to make that happen and move on with life.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Scatterbrained
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
8,416 posts
Gallery: 211 photos
Best ofs: 11
Likes: 4080
Joined Jan 2010
Location: Chula Vista, CA
     
Jul 28, 2011 14:15 |  #142

I curious to see how this all works out. I hope you get your money.


VanillaImaging.com (external link)"Vacuous images for the Vapid consumer"
500px (external link)
flickr (external link)
1x (external link)
instagram (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Hard ­ Drive ­ Disk
Senior Member
Avatar
485 posts
Joined Jul 2011
     
Jul 28, 2011 14:18 |  #143

Scatterbrained wrote in post #12838619 (external link)
I curious to see how this all works out. I hope you get your money.

if they have any type of written agreement he could take them to court, of course that could be bad for his brand/company name.


Gear List
I Love ThinkTank
Is It Normal for Me to Have 7 Camera Bags?

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Butch ­ Cassidy
Senior Member
462 posts
Joined Nov 2009
Location: Corinth TX, Dallas area
     
Jul 28, 2011 14:23 as a reply to  @ Damadsetta's post |  #144

At this point, I would have to be very polite and simply say, I cannot invest any more effort or time. Unless I have cash in hand, no check or credit card, JUST CASH. thin I would fulfill my part of contract. But I would also be ready to forget the rest of my money. Money is not everything, Piece of mind and not having to deal with some customers is worth more. They are playing you at this point and they will push and push. I would just sit back until they get ready to pay, if not it is lesson learned, WRITE A CONTRACT AND EVERYONE FULFILL THEIR part.


Butch Cassidy " Might have to rob a train, for more gear money"
50D _ 85 f1.8 USM _ 16-35 f2.8 L IS USM _ 24-70 2.8 L USM _ 70-200 f2.8 L IS USM _ 300 f2.8 L IS USM _ 580 EX 11

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
SMP_Homer
THREAD ­ STARTER
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
5,597 posts
Gallery: 25 photos
Likes: 403
Joined Mar 2008
Location: London, Ontario
     
Jul 28, 2011 14:34 |  #145

nicksan wrote in post #12838576 (external link)
Looks like you are at a stalemate then. You won't budge and they want samples. :lol:
Who's going to blink first? The suspense is building by the day.

It depends on how bad you want to get paid for your efforts or how much trouble you want to go through legally, to recoup the money.

All I am saying is, if a few samples will get them to finally pay, it seems like a worthwhile thing to do. Of course, from the look of things, even that's not a sure thing, so sure, I understand your stance on this.

If it were me, I'd just want this situation to disappear, so I'd do whatever that is necessary to make that happen and move on with life.

if I didn't have anything else going, I'd spend more time on this trying to bring it to a close.
But I have last week's wedding to do.
Also had an e-shoot on Sunday to finish.
Another wedding this Saturday, so I'm prepping the bag tonight, rehearsal tomorrow night.
My son and I are off to a ball game Sunday (and this is a long weekend here too)

time is tight - I'm sure it is for most of us - so I've got to manage it best I can, and that means paid contracts are first!


EOS R / 7D2 / 1D IV (and the wife has a T4i)
24-105L, 100-400L, 100L, 300 2.8L, 1.4x II / 2x II
Sig35A, Sig85A, Sig14-24A, Sig24-105A, Sig70-200S, Sig150-600C
600EX-II X3, 430EX-III X3

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
cdifoto
Don't get pissy with me
Avatar
34,090 posts
Likes: 39
Joined Dec 2005
     
Jul 28, 2011 14:42 |  #146

Simple response:

"You will see your finished photos when you receive your products, and I will begin work on them upon receipt of payment per the signed agreement."


Did you lose Digital Photo Professional (DPP)? Get it here (external link). Cursing at your worse-than-a-map reflector? Check out this vid! (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
cdifoto
Don't get pissy with me
Avatar
34,090 posts
Likes: 39
Joined Dec 2005
     
Jul 28, 2011 14:44 |  #147

nicksan wrote in post #12838576 (external link)
Looks like you are at a stalemate then. You won't budge and they want samples. :lol:
Who's going to blink first? The suspense is building by the day.

It depends on how bad you want to get paid for your efforts or how much trouble you want to go through legally, to recoup the money.

All I am saying is, if a few samples will get them to finally pay, it seems like a worthwhile thing to do. Of course, from the look of things, even that's not a sure thing, so sure, I understand your stance on this.

If it were me, I'd just want this situation to disappear, so I'd do whatever that is necessary to make that happen and move on with life.

Sorry Nick but at this point I think your advice to do whatever it takes to get paid is unsound. OP has to put his foot down, else they'll push back until he gives it all away. A personal check can be written and mailed from anywhere. There's absolutely NO reason to "wait until he gets back home."

Some people really do wear out their benefit of the doubt...on purpose...to get more concessions just because the business owner/seller/vendor is tired of waiting it out. A good business knows when that's happening and calls their bluff.


Did you lose Digital Photo Professional (DPP)? Get it here (external link). Cursing at your worse-than-a-map reflector? Check out this vid! (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
-MasterChief-
- B E L I E V E -
Avatar
3,188 posts
Likes: 2
Joined Mar 2006
Location: Requiem
     
Jul 28, 2011 14:59 |  #148

*subscribing!*




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
x_tan
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
8,147 posts
Gallery: 137 photos
Best ofs: 3
Likes: 462
Joined Sep 2010
Location: ɐılɐɹʇsnɐ 'ǝuɹnoqlǝɯ
     
Jul 28, 2011 18:24 |  #149

-MasterChief- wrote in post #12838901 (external link)
*subscribing!*

Me, too :)

Couldn't finish the read with PC late last night; went to bed with iPhone and ordered to turn off :cool:


Canon 5D3 + Zoom (EF 17-40L, 24-105L & 28-300L, 100-400L II) & Prime (24L II, 85L II, 100L, 135L & 200 f/2.8L II; Zeiss 1,4/35)
Sony α7r + Zeiss 1,8/55 FE
Nikon Coolpix A; Nikon F3 & F100 + Zeiss 1,4/50
Retiring  (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
suecassidy
Goldmember
Avatar
4,102 posts
Likes: 33
Joined May 2007
Location: Huntington Beach California
     
Jul 28, 2011 19:08 |  #150

I think at this point, I'd be losing patience with this client as well. You are only asking for what is the industry standard, payment up front. You've been very patient already. While I certainly wouldn't be doing anything to escalate the situation, at this point, I think I'd stand firm and firmly but politely get the cheque cashed and in my hand before I did anything. I also think that at this place in the standoff, you have to bite your tongue 'til it bleeds, and not be baited into a verbal confrontation with him. Just calmly keep repeating that you've kept your end of the bargain, and ask that he honor his. What a headache this guy is, sheesh.


Sue Cassidy
GEAR: Canon 1ds, Canon 1d Mark iii, Sony RX 100, Canon 50mmL 1.2, Canon 70-200L 2.8 IS, Canon 100-400L IS, Canon 14mm L, 2.8, . Lighting: Elinchrom Rangers, D-lite 400s, Canon 580/550 flashes. 74 ' Octabank, 27' Rotalux. Editing: Aperture 3

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)

92,460 views & 0 likes for this thread
First all-Asian wedding - a complete disaster!
FORUMS Photography Talk by Genre Weddings & Other Family Events Talk 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Index   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.1forum software
version 2.1 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member is Badgergirl
835 guests, 272 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.