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Aug 02, 2011 14:00 |  #3931

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Nice shot! Like the colors, they look really good. :)


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Aug 02, 2011 14:02 |  #3932

JakAHearts wrote in post #12864579 (external link)
Not to egg on this whole thing but I feel like a lot of time people dont give their normal "critique" to the "good" photogs. This even holds true for photos not on this site. I see a lot of pros work cutting of arms, heads, elbows etc. Then there are what some call bad poses, hot spots, too much contrast, harsh shadows etc etc. Where some unknown guy might post the same shot and have someone say "I dont like A and B about the shot" but if someone else were to post the same shot, and he is a well established and well liked photog, he would get "AMAZING work as usual". Sadly, thats just the way it is. All arts are like this, imho. A lot of times, its perception over reality.

Perfectly said, unfortunately there's not a lot you can do about it, so we just have to learn to deal with it.


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Aug 02, 2011 14:13 |  #3933

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Aug 02, 2011 14:17 |  #3934

Well done.

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Aug 02, 2011 15:49 |  #3935

JakAHearts wrote in post #12864579 (external link)
Not to egg on this whole thing but I feel like a lot of time people dont give their normal "critique" to the "good" photogs. This even holds true for photos not on this site. I see a lot of pros work cutting of arms, heads, elbows etc. Then there are what some call bad poses, hot spots, too much contrast, harsh shadows etc etc. Where some unknown guy might post the same shot and have someone say "I dont like A and B about the shot" but if someone else were to post the same shot, and he is a well established and well liked photog, he would get "AMAZING work as usual". Sadly, thats just the way it is. All arts are like this, imho. A lot of times, its perception over reality.

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Aug 02, 2011 16:00 |  #3936

JakAHearts wrote in post #12864579 (external link)
Not to egg on this whole thing but I feel like a lot of time people dont give their normal "critique" to the "good" photogs. This even holds true for photos not on this site. I see a lot of pros work cutting of arms, heads, elbows etc. Then there are what some call bad poses, hot spots, too much contrast, harsh shadows etc etc. Where some unknown guy might post the same shot and have someone say "I dont like A and B about the shot" but if someone else were to post the same shot, and he is a well established and well liked photog, he would get "AMAZING work as usual". Sadly, thats just the way it is. All arts are like this, imho. A lot of times, its perception over reality.

I have noticed this as well.


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Aug 02, 2011 16:02 |  #3937
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JakAHearts wrote in post #12864579 (external link)
Not to egg on this whole thing but I feel like a lot of time people dont give their normal "critique" to the "good" photogs. This even holds true for photos not on this site. I see a lot of pros work cutting of arms, heads, elbows etc. Then there are what some call bad poses, hot spots, too much contrast, harsh shadows etc etc. Where some unknown guy might post the same shot and have someone say "I dont like A and B about the shot" but if someone else were to post the same shot, and he is a well established and well liked photog, he would get "AMAZING work as usual". Sadly, thats just the way it is. All arts are like this, imho. A lot of times, its perception over reality.

Yes, this true. If you are a "forum hero", you can just say it's a choice you made and everyone agrees. Really, it's just bad lighting or posing that wouldn't do for a photo director, but it is not smart to say that around here, it seems people are not interested. (Or if they are, they are clever enough not to say anything.)

But that's forums all over the world. Excuses are great, some people have no idea about wanting to get better, which we all should be doing.




  
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Aug 02, 2011 16:27 |  #3938

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Wow didn’t think there would be this big of a discussion on this..

Thanks for the comments both negative and positives

Original question of why I made the window brighter than the other? Artistic Choice like some have stated.

Short answer I did the best I could with the amount of time given. When I was setting up for the shot, it looked pretty good having the brighter window become the light source for the bride, but in hind sight now, some don’t like the bright window..

I guess I could have burned down the window some more and post before and after..

Problem is: even with out the lighting, there was one sunny window and one in the shade(two different ratio's). So no matter what you do in a single snap of a camera click, your going to get a bright and a darker window… that ratio will never change as it is ambient or am I wrong here? and brides wearing white.. who made that crazy protocol default color?

BTW The Brides Family is happy with the final results so in the end I guess I did my job.. interesting input and discussions.. makes us all better

I have been with out internet since Comcast is down in my area..

I (along with others here) think you made the right choice. As I understand it (but admitedly limited by my severly limited experience) you are right about being unable to bring the two windows to the same exposure. While you could have "balanced" the shot to bring down the exposure of the bright window, that would have left the other window dark (as Ryan pointed out earlier). Then, there probably would have been comments about the dark window! Damned if you do and damned if you don't...

But most importantly, if you would have "balanced" to bring down the exposure of the bright window, the exposure of the subject would have been different and I'm guessing you would have lost the magic of the scene as you portrayed it.

BTW - in some cultures, white is the color for funerals and other (easier to photograph) colors are for bridal gowns. Not a lot of call (anymore) for funeral photography... Oh well!


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Aug 02, 2011 16:35 |  #3939

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Aug 02, 2011 16:38 |  #3940

JakAHearts wrote in post #12864579 (external link)
Not to egg on this whole thing but I feel like a lot of time people dont give their normal "critique" to the "good" photogs. This even holds true for photos not on this site. I see a lot of pros work cutting of arms, heads, elbows etc. Then there are what some call bad poses, hot spots, too much contrast, harsh shadows etc etc. Where some unknown guy might post the same shot and have someone say "I dont like A and B about the shot" but if someone else were to post the same shot, and he is a well established and well liked photog, he would get "AMAZING work as usual". Sadly, thats just the way it is. All arts are like this, imho. A lot of times, its perception over reality.

Hey! I displayed my displeasure with Peter Nguyen... once... When he shot a dude and not his usual stunning ladies. :D


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Aug 02, 2011 16:55 |  #3941

HAHA, i actually like those shots... all 2 of them... :P


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Aug 02, 2011 17:08 |  #3942

Roroco wrote in post #12865465 (external link)
Hey! I displayed my displeasure with Peter Nguyen... once... When he shot a dude and not his usual stunning ladies. :D

And you were in the right :D


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Aug 02, 2011 17:19 |  #3943

the default answer for any of us can always be "art's creative decision" so even if you could or would have, he/she didn't. Feel free to say you don't agree, but as Pham stated in the end, the customer was happy and that's really all that matters. So now we have members banned because Pham's decision was challenged? it is the social world we live in.


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Aug 02, 2011 17:35 |  #3944
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hawk911 wrote in post #12865628 (external link)
the default answer for any of us can always be "art's creative decision" so even if you could or would have, he/she didn't. Feel free to say you don't agree, but as Pham stated in the end, the customer was happy and that's really all that matters. So now we have members banned because Pham's decision was challenged? it is the social world we live in.

No, they were banned because they didn't know enough about lighting so just got very rude instead.




  
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Aug 02, 2011 18:04 |  #3945

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No, they were banned because they didn't know enough about lighting so just got very rude instead.

rofl :lol:


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