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Spyder3Pro & Dell U2211H - Not Impressed!!

 
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Aug 03, 2011 23:38 |  #16

Quick question: did you let your monitor warm up before you did the calibration? I have Spyder3 Express and never really had problems. Even my instant prints at Walmart (yes okay, not professional lab and its Kodak crap paper blabla) are okay for colors. Colors of your screen might look off because you are used to the wrong hue/tint. Once calibrated, THAT is the color hue/tint it should be... unless of course the Spyder itself is defective and not reading the colors properly when you calibrate the screen?




  
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Aug 04, 2011 00:02 |  #17

I suspect the OP just needs to exercise some patience, calibrate per the instructions once, spend a few days getting used to it, then printing a quality print through a quality lab with the proper print profiles in place if needed. Once these steps are followed, I think the OP will regret taking so much time to make an issue of it. This is all VERY common for new users to calibration.




  
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Aug 05, 2011 03:41 |  #18

amonline wrote in post #12874534 (external link)
I suspect the OP just needs to exercise some patience, calibrate per the instructions once, spend a few days getting used to it, then printing a quality print through a quality lab with the proper print profiles in place if needed. Once these steps are followed, I think the OP will regret taking so much time to make an issue of it. This is all VERY common for new users to calibration.

The OP is not making a issue of it. merely trying to get some help. Which in all fairness most members have given. Except the odd few jumped up ones!!

The OP has exercised plenty of patience weeks in fact.

As for getting ued to it. How does that explain inconsistant results everytime its Calibrated? Somthing is not right.

Moved to ColorEyes now with no problems.


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Aug 05, 2011 06:34 as a reply to  @ Oxford_Matt's post |  #19

If the monitor colour is inconsistant and the monitor isn't at fault then the problem may well be with the computer graphics card.

Update graphics card drivers to the latest ones.
Turn off any and all colour controls in the driver software - ie. for a Radeon uninstall the Control Centre.
Make sure that Adobe Photoshop calibration isn't being used.
Set the colour space in the OS to match what the monitor can use - use Color Management in Win7 - no use setting the monitor colour space to aRGB if it can only use sRGB.
Set the monitor to factory defaults.
Re-calibrate.
Make sure that Colour Management is using the new profile.

Don't expect to get used to a newly bought and calibrated monitor straight away, normally a properly calibrated monitor will look much too warm when compared to the factory defaults.

If you still have problems then there may be a hardware problem. You say that your previous calibration hardware also gave inconsistant results - that's a clue I think.




  
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Aug 05, 2011 09:04 |  #20

Oxford_Matt wrote in post #12880901 (external link)
Moved to ColorEyes now with no problems.

So, the problem was the Spyder software?


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Aug 05, 2011 09:27 |  #21

matt i am glad color eyes is working for you :), i would still do the print thing because you may need a little more tweaking besides calibration to get it correct for print lab


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Aug 05, 2011 09:32 |  #22

René Damkot wrote in post #12881677 (external link)
So, the problem was the Spyder software?

Sounds like bad HARDware.




  
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Aug 05, 2011 15:27 |  #23

René Damkot wrote in post #12881677 (external link)
So, the problem was the Spyder software?

Looks that way.

I calibrated with ColorEyes Pro and it gave a more pleasing look, then i reset monitor factorys settings and re-calibrated and got exactly the same look and results.

So fingers crossed it works. Also had a bit of luck!! When I downloaded Coloreyes Pro demo it came and Demo has 9999 Days remaining?? :lol:

Download it whilst you can. lol

Thabks to everyone for their help and advice.


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Aug 06, 2011 01:14 |  #24

I prefer basiccolor, coloreyes has horrible customer service and support. Their phone number is a cell phone that nobody ever answers. I'm not sure how they stay in business.

Try the trail, I've notice a tangible difference using it vs coloreyes monitor pro.
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Aug 07, 2011 01:50 |  #25

You must set the target white balance to "native" with an LCD monitor while using any Spyder3, as opposed to going near the rgb sliders and or white balance target preset modes on the monitor. You should only have to adjust brightness (With contrast usually being set to maximum) during calibration.

I use a Spyder3Elite with fantastic results for all of my monitors, including friends' computers...


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Aug 08, 2011 17:28 |  #26

Oxford_Matt wrote in post #12883723 (external link)
Looks that way.

I calibrated with ColorEyes Pro and it gave a more pleasing look,

Thabks to everyone for their help and advice.

Pleasing look doesn't always = correct...............
Glad you seem to have got it sorted to your satisfaction though.




  
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Aug 10, 2011 01:57 as a reply to  @ post 12871378 |  #27

Hello guys,

We just saw there are some issues with a Spyder3 here.

For any questions and support issues, please never hesitate to submit us a Ticket on:
http://support.datacol​or.com (external link)

You will receive an answer from one of us quite soon (24 hours after posting). We will then help you out until you're happy with your calibration and will of course replace any defective hardware.


Thank you in advance and best regards,

Datacolor Support-Team




  
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Aug 12, 2011 16:10 |  #28

Just to keep you updated.

I have recently received the a Lab (Non Auto Corrected) Print and Lab Profiles.

Re-Calibrated, Opened in Photoshop, Proof checked with Labs Profile and BINGO!!!

Pretty much Spot on.

Thanks for all your help Guys.

A Happy Matt ;)


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Aug 12, 2011 16:17 |  #29

Well, that's good to know!

Now it would be interesting to see how many labs you can find that will actually match this -- download their profiles and see if their soft-proof matches, then get a test print done, so you can line up several good vendors:)!


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Aug 16, 2011 15:05 |  #30

dctech wrote in post #12908614 (external link)
Hello guys,

We just saw there are some issues with a Spyder3 here.

For any questions and support issues, please never hesitate to submit us a Ticket on:
http://support.datacol​or.com (external link)

You will receive an answer from one of us quite soon (24 hours after posting). We will then help you out until you're happy with your calibration and will of course replace any defective hardware.

Thank you in advance and best regards,

Datacolor Support-Team

Submitted Ticket few weeks ago and had no reply. :(


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