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KandJinIN
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Aug 04, 2011 08:09 |  #1

I am currently selling a few things on Craigslist, and am a bit confused on a scam going around. I have had two people ask me to send my item to their son in Africa (obviously a scam) and that they will pay me via paypal.

I am currently just really confused about a scam using paypal. I know that for instance, a western union payment, or a check, or MO or something along those lines, can all be forged and then I would be held liable for those things. However, if someone uses paypal, all they need is my email and then they send me money right? Any idea how this scam would work and make sense?

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Aug 04, 2011 09:02 |  #2

if selling on CL I'd just stick to face-to-face transaction.


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Aug 04, 2011 09:04 as a reply to  @ alpha_1976's post |  #3

That is just the first step in the scam. After they get the email, the story changes - some sad story calculated to earn your trust and sympathy - and eventually they start trolling for other personal info (SSN, routing numbers, etc.). Sadly, people fall for this stuff.


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Aug 04, 2011 09:14 |  #4

Gotcha... on principle I stick to face-to-face meetings, but this scam at least intrigued me in that I could not figure out how in the heck it would work lol.

So it is the first step, but it isn't over huh... makes sense

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Aug 04, 2011 09:20 |  #5

KandJinIN wrote in post #12875818 (external link)
Gotcha... on principle I stick to face-to-face meetings, but this scam at least intrigued me in that I could not figure out how in the heck it would work lol.

So it is the first step, but it isn't over huh... makes sense

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Right. The first step is used only to lure in the gullible and/or greedy. Once they get a live one, game on.


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Aug 04, 2011 09:47 |  #6

Craigslist = face-to-face meetings and cash only.


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Aug 04, 2011 09:52 |  #7

photoguy6405 wrote in post #12876006 (external link)
Craigslist = face-to-face meetings and cash only.

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Aug 04, 2011 09:53 |  #8

crn3371 wrote in post #12876038 (external link)
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Aug 04, 2011 09:54 |  #9

KandJinIN wrote in post #12875506 (external link)
I am currently just really confused about a scam using paypal. I know that for instance, a western union payment, or a check, or MO or something along those lines, can all be forged and then I would be held liable for those things. However, if someone uses paypal, all they need is my email and then they send me money right? Any idea how this scam would work and make sense?

They send you a fake email that looks like it comes from PayPal. The email will tell you that you've been paid, but the money will not be released to you until you provide proof of shipping. If the email fools you, and if you don't check your PayPal account, you ship the item and you're out of luck.

Craigslist doesn't have to be face-to-face for items that can be shipped. BUT if a buyer can't or doesn't want to meet you, demand either a Western Union wire transfer or a USPS money order. With either, you can have cash in hand before you ship.




  
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Aug 04, 2011 10:18 |  #10

IIRC, there is also a way to "Stop payment" with paypal even days after you send it. I think it's if they send you an e-check. That could be part of the scam as well.


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Aug 04, 2011 11:35 as a reply to  @ spider87's post |  #11

Ok, the scams are easy to spot.

Then there are lowballers.. you can tune them out too.

Then there are lowballer extremes.. who will agree to a price then when you meet, they tell you they have less money than agreed upon price. Unfortunately, by then you've wasted your time and gas meeting them...




  
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Aug 04, 2011 11:53 |  #12

rxjohn wrote in post #12876682 (external link)
Then there are lowballer extremes.. who will agree to a price then when you meet, they tell you they have less money than agreed upon price. Unfortunately, by then you've wasted your time and gas meeting them...

I hate those. If we have an agreed price, I will refuse just on principle.

Regarding lowballing, About a year ago I was selling a car on Craigslist for $9700 OBO. I get an e-mail saying "Will you take $4500?". I didn't even bother to respond.

Three weeks later he offers $8500. Both times sight unseen. I'm sure he was hoping I was desperate so he could flip it for a profit.


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Aug 04, 2011 19:49 |  #13

My c'list was hacked recently and the new operators of my account ran scam ads all over the USA. So if you send money to a PO box, you have no recourse at all, not through the c'list account , not through the PO box, Nada.

I inadvertantly put my email address in an ad instead of my usual phone number with spelled numbers (86 seven five 30 ni-ee-eyen). That put my email on a similar ad with another with my phone number and the scammers started bombarding me with foul images, obscure phone messages, random weird emails, all to set me up for the idea that something weird was happening. When I got an email from c'list saying my account had been hacked and that I should follow this link and change my password immediately, I followed the link and did, but it was a link to a phony c'list password change page and when I thought I was changing my password I was really giving the scammers my password-and away we went.
Some of the ads they ran were for camera gear, but mostly expensive rv's and sporting goods and riding lawnmowers, all 2-3 grand items for 1 to 1.5K. Of course I deleted them all and really did change my password after that. An interesting weekend. Never trust anyone except for a face to face, cash in hand, public place, time to inspect and nothing weird.


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Aug 04, 2011 20:39 |  #14

Why is that site still up!! OMG....


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Aug 04, 2011 20:45 |  #15

Because it works.

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Why is that site still up!! OMG....




  
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