After a long time I shot at dusk with my 7D and 28-135mm lens. SOOC the photo is very noisy even if it is shot at ISO 100 and f/8, f/10, f/22, f/29. The 100% crop sample shown below was captured at f/29.
Why is there so much noise?
csondagar Senior Member 792 posts Likes: 2 Joined Mar 2004 Location: Victoria, Canada More info | Aug 07, 2011 13:21 | #1 After a long time I shot at dusk with my 7D and 28-135mm lens. SOOC the photo is very noisy even if it is shot at ISO 100 and f/8, f/10, f/22, f/29. The 100% crop sample shown below was captured at f/29.
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Aug 07, 2011 13:28 | #2 That looks incredibly good (noise wise) for a 13-second exposure! 5DSR, 6D, 16-35/4L IS, 85L II, 100L macro, Sigma 150-600C
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Nickc84 Goldmember ![]() 2,064 posts Likes: 78 Joined Jul 2010 More info | Aug 07, 2011 13:38 | #3 absplastic wrote in post #12892239 ![]() That looks incredibly good (noise wise) for a 13-second exposure! Yeah, and for a %100 crop too! LoL
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amfoto1 Cream of the Crop 10,251 posts Likes: 84 Joined Aug 2007 Location: San Jose, California More info | Aug 07, 2011 14:53 | #4 When you have to increase exposure in post production to compensate for under-exposure at the time the photos was taken, you amp up noise a lot. Alan Myers
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Aug 07, 2011 15:00 | #5 amfoto1 wrote in post #12892602 ![]() Another subject... Using f29, very likely you are getting a lot of loss of detail due to diffraction. The Diffraction Limited Aperture on a 7D is something like f7.1... I try not to use smaller than f11. I can see diffraction effects as f16 and f22... so have little doubt you lost a whole lot of fine detail using such a small aperture. Really... My Canon kit 450D/s90; Canon lenses 18-55 IS, 70-210/3.5-4.5....Nikon kit: D610; 28-105/3.5-4.5, 75-300/4.5-5.6 AF, 50/1.8D Nikkors, Tamron 80-210; MF Nikkors: 50/2K, 50/1.4 AI-S, 50/1.8 SeriesE, 60/2.8 Micro Nikkor (AF locked), 85mm/1.8K-AI, 105/2.5 AIS/P.C, 135/2.8K/Q.C, 180/2.8 ED, 200/4Q/AIS, 300/4.5H-AI, ++ Tamron 70-210/3.8-4, Vivitar/Kiron 28/2, ser.1 70-210/3.5, ser.1 28-90; Vivitar/Komine and Samyang 28/2.8; 35mm Nikon F/FM/FE2, Rebel 2K...HTC RE UWA camera
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led hed Goldmember ![]() 1,929 posts Joined Aug 2005 Location: Apsley, On. CAN. More info | Aug 07, 2011 15:03 | #6 f29?! is there such an 'f'? Rob - "a photographer is a painter, in a hurry!"
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Aug 07, 2011 15:04 | #7 led hed wrote in post #12892636 ![]() f29?! is there such an 'f'? Not on every lens, but some (esp. macro lenses) support very small apertures. 5DSR, 6D, 16-35/4L IS, 85L II, 100L macro, Sigma 150-600C
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Aug 07, 2011 17:13 | #8 led hed wrote in post #12892636 ![]() f29?! is there such an 'f'? 1/3 F-stop wider than F32...F22, F25, F29, F32... My Canon kit 450D/s90; Canon lenses 18-55 IS, 70-210/3.5-4.5....Nikon kit: D610; 28-105/3.5-4.5, 75-300/4.5-5.6 AF, 50/1.8D Nikkors, Tamron 80-210; MF Nikkors: 50/2K, 50/1.4 AI-S, 50/1.8 SeriesE, 60/2.8 Micro Nikkor (AF locked), 85mm/1.8K-AI, 105/2.5 AIS/P.C, 135/2.8K/Q.C, 180/2.8 ED, 200/4Q/AIS, 300/4.5H-AI, ++ Tamron 70-210/3.8-4, Vivitar/Kiron 28/2, ser.1 70-210/3.5, ser.1 28-90; Vivitar/Komine and Samyang 28/2.8; 35mm Nikon F/FM/FE2, Rebel 2K...HTC RE UWA camera
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JonK Goldmember ![]() 2,161 posts Likes: 3 Joined Feb 2004 Location: PA USA More info | Aug 07, 2011 18:14 | #9 Why in heavens name would you choose F29?! 7NE | 7D | 5DII | 16-35/2.8L II | 24/1.4L II | TS-E 24/3.5L II | 50/1.4 | 85/1.2L II | 100/2.8L IS | 70-200/2.8L IS II | 400/5.6L | PIXMA Pro 9500 Mark II
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krb Cream of the Crop ![]() 8,818 posts Likes: 7 Joined Jun 2008 Location: Where southern efficiency and northern charm come together More info | Aug 07, 2011 18:18 | #10 led hed wrote in post #12892636 ![]() f29?! is there such an 'f'? Of course. For example, the 100-400 L has a minimum aperture of f/32 at 100mm and f/40 at 400mm. f/29 is one click (1/3 stop) up from f/32. -- Ken
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watt100 Cream of the Crop 14,021 posts Likes: 29 Joined Jun 2008 More info | Aug 07, 2011 18:21 | #11 csondagar wrote in post #12892215 ![]() After a long time I shot at dusk with my 7D and 28-135mm lens. SOOC the photo is very noisy even if it is shot at ISO 100 and f/8, f/10, f/22, f/29. The 100% crop sample shown below was captured at f/29. Why is there so much noise? Dude, --- 100% crop, f 29 , 13 seconds
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Frugal Senior Member ![]() 784 posts Joined May 2009 Location: Northern CA More info | And you were shooting at f/29 because... ? Richard
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sbattey Goldmember 1,250 posts Joined Mar 2011 More info | Aug 07, 2011 19:29 | #13 ![]() That is actually really good.. Canon 7D | Canon 50mm f/1.4 | 430EX II
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Anke "that rump shot is just adorable" UK SE Photographer of the Year 2009 ![]() 30,454 posts Likes: 2 Joined Oct 2006 Location: Royal Tunbridge Wells, UK More info | Aug 07, 2011 19:40 | #14 csondagar wrote in post #12892215 ![]() ...very noisy...
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yogestee "my posts can be a little colourful" ![]() More info | Aug 07, 2011 21:02 | #15 JonK wrote in post #12893482 ![]() Why in heavens name would you choose F29?! Were you trying for a longer shutter? That's what ND filters are for. I regularly shoot at f/16 with long night time exposures at 100 ISO.. Jurgen
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