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Aug 07, 2011 17:38 |  #1336

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How about a picture of water crashing onto the rocks in the evening time but not the sun in the shot? Doesn't it come out too dark if you don't do it long enough? Also won't it have a green tint to it that you have to photoshop back to look normal?

At night, you really don't need the welding glass.

What the welding glass enables you to do is leave the shutter open for long periods of time in the daytime as you do with nighttime shots without it. It's like a night time simulator for the camera but you get different effects with it during the day.


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Aug 07, 2011 19:54 |  #1337

Hi all,
Its been quite a while since I've last posted but some of the awesome photos in this thread have inspired me to pick up a piece of welding glass and try it out, and to hopefully become a little more active on the forum. I got my welding glass at a welding shop while here on working holiday in Australia for around 2.95AUD. It's a shade 10. Anyway here are a couple shots from earlier on my vacation:

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Aug 07, 2011 20:06 |  #1338

Great shots Andrew!

I need to get out with my welding glass this week too. I've been thinking about bringing my water shoes so I can get into the water at the waterfall by me and try and get some different angles. Not sure how clean that water is so I'll have to do some research. It is pretty clear looking. I just don't know how slimy the bottom is.


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Aug 07, 2011 21:35 |  #1339

I just can't seem to shake the damn color cast away via PS. I'm going to continue to play around with the filter I got for a bit.


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Aug 07, 2011 22:46 |  #1340

Great shots Andrew!

I need to get out with my welding glass this week too. I've been thinking about bringing my water shoes so I can get into the water at the waterfall by me and try and get some different angles. Not sure how clean that water is so I'll have to do some research. It is pretty clear looking. I just don't know how slimy the bottom is.

Thanks CameraMan. Great idea on the water shoes. I bought a pair of dive shoes for farm work while in Australia (they're excellent in the muddy fields). They will now become my dedicated waterfalling shoes when I get back home :D.

I just can't seem to shake the damn color cast away via PS. I'm going to continue to play around with the filter I got for a bit.

I find DPP's white balance eye dropper to be the easiest way to shake the cast. I have an older version of PS elements so I click around on a cloud or white highlight in any flowing water in the photo in DPP until I get something close to what I want. Then the little tweaking that is left is much easier in PS.

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Aug 07, 2011 22:52 |  #1341

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Hi all,
Its been quite a while since I've last posted but some of the awesome photos in this thread have inspired me to pick up a piece of welding glass and try it out, and to hopefully become a little more active on the forum. I got my welding glass at a welding shop while here on working holiday in Australia for around 2.95AUD. It's a shade 10. Anyway here are a couple shots from earlier on my vacation:

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Nicely done :)


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Aug 07, 2011 22:53 |  #1342

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I just can't seem to shake the damn color cast away via PS. I'm going to continue to play around with the filter I got for a bit.


Like Drew says there are a few posts of people saying that DPP is better at handling the colour change back to normal. Maybe give it a whirl.


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Aug 08, 2011 02:22 as a reply to  @ Anke's post |  #1343

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Gorgeous! Singaporean too? :p

Not quite, I work here in Singapore ;)

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Beautiful shots Andrew. The first one is a perfect example of rocks in a zigzag leading line to the waterfall itself. Very nice!

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I got the sides cut at a local glass cutting factory to fit into my Cokin X-Pro holder (130mm). Very cool stuff, they can program the machine to make precise angular cuts and somehow sand off the sides to make it matte and less sharp. If only I could communicate with the machine operators. They seemed nonplussed that I had two small pieces of glass and kept peering through into the light lol. Figures, they were cutting up sheets 2/3 inch thick and as large as a truck, an aquarium perhaps.

A dollar for each cut, quite worth it methinks. I taped up the exposed sides at first with leftover gaffer's tape, from the advice somewhere in this thread, fearful of flare but seemed alright without.

They're much less flimsy than the polycarbonate ones. Still sore I scratched that one while sawing with a junior hacksaw. Chastising myself for being so lazy and not clamping it to the table.


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Aug 08, 2011 09:13 |  #1344

I should know what DPP is, and rather then dig through pages of posts, someone care to tell me? :)

Anke wrote in post #12894732 (external link)
Like Drew says there are a few posts of people saying that DPP is better at handling the colour change back to normal. Maybe give it a whirl.


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Aug 08, 2011 09:22 as a reply to  @ EdATX's post |  #1345

Heh that would be the software that came with your camera...
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Aug 08, 2011 09:23 |  #1346

Hmm, have to D/L it then. Got my 40d used.. I'll give that a try. And I really suck at adjusting curves..


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Aug 08, 2011 09:55 |  #1347

Nocturnus wrote in post #12896415 (external link)
Hmm, have to D/L it then. Got my 40d used.. I'll give that a try. And I really suck at adjusting curves..

If you got your camera used without the CD with the software you will only be able to find updates to DPP that require the original installed from the CD first.

However, you say you have PS. What Version? And are you shooting Raw rather than Jpeg?

Adobe Camera Raw which is the Raw plugin included with PS also has a white balance eyedropper that works good on these photos as well as other color adjustment tools that do a great job of getting them to look normal.


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Aug 08, 2011 09:56 |  #1348

I use CS3, shoot raw. Found DPP 1.0 for D/L from Japan.

I tried the eyedropper, but came out with muted colors..


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Aug 08, 2011 10:17 |  #1349

Nocturnus wrote in post #12896631 (external link)
I use CS3, shoot raw. Found DPP 1.0 for D/L from Japan.

I tried the eyedropper, but came out with muted colors..

I forgot that you can get DDP 1.0 from Canon Japan. And I even posted the link once or twice before. Now you need to get on the Canon web site and download the latest update. 3.10.1.0

When you first set the white balance the colors will look a little muted, but then you just turn up the Vibrance and Contrast.

I worked on your last picture of the Dam in ACR.
Picked an area of the Dam I thought would be a light gray color and used the WB Dropper.
HIstogram was showing that the picture was not completely exposed so I adjusted the Exposure up to stretch the histogram more to fill in the right.
And then adjusted Contrast, Detail, and Vibrance to bring the detail and colors to life.


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Aug 08, 2011 11:20 |  #1350

I was having to guess with the exposure.. Guess I didn't get that right. I might swing by there again tonight and mess with it. Just trying to figure out how many stop's my #11 filter is.. I'll be sure to take a pen/paper with me this time to keep track of what I'm doing.

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I forgot that you can get DDP 1.0 from Canon Japan. And I even posted the link once or twice before. Now you need to get on the Canon web site and download the latest update. 3.10.1.0

When you first set the white balance the colors will look a little muted, but then you just turn up the Vibrance and Contrast.

I worked on your last picture of the Dam in ACR.
Picked an area of the Dam I thought would be a light gray color and used the WB Dropper.
HIstogram was showing that the picture was not completely exposed so I adjusted the Exposure up to stretch the histogram more to fill in the right.
And then adjusted Contrast, Detail, and Vibrance to bring the detail and colors to life.


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