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Aug 08, 2011 01:16 |  #1

Hey all, just looking for some advice: I plan to provide personal photographs at public events (couples or families posing with cars at a car show, for example) and offer them prints online. Do I risk an infringement of individual privacy by allowing the viewing or purchase of these shots by other people? Specifically, I plan to upload to a password-protected gallery, but it doesn't seem possible to issue a separate password for each photo. Thus, each group/individual photographed will be provided with a business card containing the password for the gallery, which includes images of everyone else as well. Should I be concerned about this? Thanks in advance...

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Aug 08, 2011 01:20 |  #2

Are you being hired by the organizer(s)? AFAIK, it falls in their lap if there is a hired shooter at their event.

I wouldn't worry too much when you're selling to subjects only for private, non-commercial use or for editorial use.

Without releases, I would not include any of the images in a portfolio intended to promote your business. I would also make sure I got property releases from the car owners as some like to think any work they've done is proprietary and should not be used for financial gain beyond their own.


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Aug 08, 2011 01:57 |  #3

No, I do not plan on being hired by the organizers. I see this as a transaction between people photographed and myself, but the car owner is a factor I had not considered... It could be a bit tedious to obtain signed releases from all of them. I wonder if verbal consent would suffice, as long as it was witnessed by my subjects? Or is it even worth worrying about, when the potential profit from each shot is so low? I mean, who would really press the issue over a $2 print? How do you handle releases? It just seems to me that asking someone to sign on the line gives the impression that they are giving something up and would lead to questions and negotiation. What is the best way to approach them?


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Aug 08, 2011 02:18 |  #4

It's a good idea to check with the event coordinators. They generally have a blurb on the ticket that would cover you. You may also need to pay for the opportunity.
You can find yourself in a bigger scuffle with the event coordinators if you don't.
Most events are public events on private property.


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Aug 08, 2011 02:36 |  #5

Yeah, I don't think the organizers are going to like having you there making money off their event without getting a cut.

Releases may be the least of your worries... Best of luck.


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Aug 08, 2011 22:00 as a reply to  @ FlyingPhotog's post |  #6

Thanks for the input everyone. I will definitely check with the event coordinators, so as not to step on any toes. And FlyingPhotog, I am absolutely drooling over your shots of the A-10!


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Aug 08, 2011 22:22 |  #7

Thanks... Prints are available in a wide variety of sizes. ;)


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Aug 08, 2011 23:18 as a reply to  @ FlyingPhotog's post |  #8

I trust that you would have permission as well for these people to pose by some souped up car. I am not sure what the legalities of this but it would be worth looking in to.


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Aug 09, 2011 00:07 |  #9

Okay, after doing some research, I've come up with three legal considerations for this type of shooting. First, and most important, is that the owner of the -car/airplane/whatever spectacle- may have a claim to the legal rights of its image. Second, the organizers of the event may have some quarrel with me shooting for profit on their property. And third, individuals who have their portraits taken at the event may react negatively to their images being available to others who attended the event (since all would be uploaded to a single gallery with a single password for all who were photographed). In light of this, I'm wondering if anyone out there has first-hand experience with event photography like this and, if so, are there workarounds for these legal considerations?


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Aug 09, 2011 00:14 |  #10

Go negotiate with the Organizers to be the Official Photographer...


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Aug 09, 2011 01:06 |  #11

When I have done shoots like this, the organizers are usually the ones who hired me.
Approach them with an offer.


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Aug 09, 2011 01:17 |  #12

my main objection to this is $2 prints -


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Aug 09, 2011 02:01 |  #13

Others have provided advice re legalities, but the matter of organiser permission and payment has also come up in this thread.

I operate with a similar business model - selling images to event participants - but I keep organisers sweet by ALWAYS obtaining permission to be there in advance and offering them copies of any images I take, free of charge for their own use (i.e. not for circulation or supply to third parties). This usually keeps them happy, particularly if you supply them with some good shots of their event.


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Aug 09, 2011 23:37 |  #14

London808: Sorry, $2 prints was an exaggeration, I have not set prices yet. That is a whole other conversation... Everyone else, thanks for the input. It sounds like the consensus is that making arrangements with the coordinators prior to the event is best practice. I will do it. Thanks

John


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