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Skin tones muted too much?

 
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Aug 16, 2011 03:10 |  #1

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Can't seem to get my skin tones the way I want them.

This set seems flat :\

Thoughts?

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Aug 16, 2011 03:31 |  #2

Hi Nick - I am only an amateur myself, so don't really have any advise to give, but do love the composition of this photo. My only issue is the top left/middle appears quite blown out.


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Aug 16, 2011 03:33 |  #3

What have you done to it so far? It might help if you turn on IMAGE EDITING OK in your profile.

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Aug 16, 2011 03:36 |  #4

Oh yeah totally, all of the sky is blown out actually.

I typically expose for skin, and with the huge amount of dynamic range outdoors, most of my photos, that aren't completely shaded, are going to have some areas blown out, unless I'm either A) Shooting HDR, which is never the case. or 2) Shoot silhouettes of the couple and exposing for the sky (rarely)

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Aug 16, 2011 03:41 |  #5

Ran it through a highly modified Fuji Reala preset in ASE3.

Basically muted highlights and shadows.


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Aug 16, 2011 03:57 |  #6

This whole shot is over-exposed, By "muting" you made everything a bit grey... I think this is not a "keeper".
In bright conditions, when shooting people use fill flash! That will reduce the extremes in the dynamic range and preserves your skin tones - albeit with some past-processing to get the colour temperature right.

I am not really impressed by the composition. The couple is too centred in the frame, something is growing out the girls head. And they are too small in the frame to make them the main subject in the shot.
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Aug 16, 2011 04:32 |  #7

Yeah, not really lookin' for comp tips.

Thanks tho.

If you have any suggestions concerning processing, on how to grab a little more depth from the skin tones, I'm all ears.


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Aug 16, 2011 06:08 |  #8

NickRadford wrote in post #12943692 (external link)
Yeah, not really lookin' for comp tips.

Thanks tho.

If you have any suggestions concerning processing, on how to grab a little more depth from the skin tones, I'm all ears.

The shot out of the camera ruined alot of hope to recover this photo. As Henk said. Fill flash would have been your best bet.


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Aug 16, 2011 12:31 |  #9

Agreed, too much processing. Can't be saved by PP I guess, unless you let let the sky be blown out, which is alright sometimes as long as the composition/subject is good/interesting.



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Aug 16, 2011 12:50 |  #10

i would first use a flash to balance the exposure. if that is not what you want to do and if you have lightroom 3 u can use the graduated filter and just add saturation and more exposure to just the top half of the pic


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Aug 16, 2011 15:14 |  #11

Seems that instead of trying to answer the question posed, everyone decided to offer me suggestions of what they wouldv'e done when shooting it.

I understand that everyone sees a subject differently, everyone composes differently, everyone lights differently. None inherently better than the other.

That's the problem with the current breed of aspiring photographers (for the most part)

Creativity has been stripped in a pursuit of "doing things by the book"

Boring.

I've thrown that methodology out and have been able to go full time.

Nothing has exploded my business like tossing out the rules and shooting for me.

Maybe I worded my question to broadly,

Does anyone know how to modify a certain level on the tone curve palette within ASE3?


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Aug 16, 2011 15:39 |  #12

NickRadford wrote in post #12946546 (external link)
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I've thrown that methodology out and have been able to go full time.

Nothing has exploded my business like tossing out the rules and shooting for me.

Maybe I worded my question to broadly,

Does anyone know how to modify a certain level on the tone curve palette within ASE3?

If you are such a professional then why ask the question in the first place - especially about a shot that is quite obviously beyond salvage..... :)


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Aug 16, 2011 15:58 as a reply to  @ vk2gwk's post |  #13

Even if you shot RAW, looks like the picture is quite blown. The only thing I could suggest is cropping so that the couple is on the left side of the frame (so getting rid of the very top part and right part). If you had Image Editing Okay I could show you what I mean ...


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Aug 16, 2011 16:00 as a reply to  @ vk2gwk's post |  #14

kathfern wrote in post #12943554 (external link)
don't really have any advise to give, but do love the composition of this photo.

vk2gwk wrote in post #12943593 (external link)
I am not really impressed by the composition. The couple is too centred in the frame, something is growing out the girls head. And they are too small in the frame to make them the main subject in the shot.

?????????


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Aug 16, 2011 16:23 |  #15

vk2gwk wrote in post #12946671 (external link)
If you are such a professional then why ask the question in the first place - especially about a shot that is quite obviously beyond salvage..... :)

I agree.

Instead of running it in a Reala Preset, if you want to go Black and White, run it through a Ilford Pan F preset (I use Silver Efex).



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